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Korwin:

Sorry have to disagree again:

--- Quote ---If almost anyone with an awareness of
the supernatural knows about the Catch
or could easily find out
--- End quote ---
directly from page YW 185...


--- Quote ---The Black Court have the intervening variable of only 4 points of Toughness powers, meaning it's impossible for their Catch to be more than +3.
--- End quote ---
Argh, was only looking at the catch.
Is there any Creature with Catch +4?

Deadmanwalking:

--- Quote from: Korwin on April 07, 2010, 04:33:36 AM ---Sorry have to disagree again:directly from page YW 185...
--- End quote ---

No, we don't you're right and I'm wrong on that one.

I'd still argue that you need specific wizard level research materials to know that the creature in question was Fae, making it effectively as hard to find out. While everyone and their mother in the magic community knows a Black Court Vampire when they hear about one.


--- Quote from: Korwin on April 07, 2010, 04:33:36 AM ---Argh, was only looking at the catch.
Is there any Creature with Catch +4?

--- End quote ---

Aside from a Stacked one on Physical Immunity? Not that I've found.

LCDarkwood:

--- Quote from: Carabas on April 06, 2010, 10:34:16 PM ---You can find out about the whole cold iron thing on wikipedia, of all places.
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I know you winked, but just for posterity and archiving, in case anyone cares:

Sure, but look at that quote and what surrounds it on links.

"In terms of protective charms, cold iron is the most familiar, but other things are regarded as detrimental to the fairies: wearing clothing inside out, running water, bells (especially church bells), St. John's wort, and four-leaf clovers, among others. Some lore is contradictory, such as Rowan trees in some tales being sacred to the fairies, and in other tales being protection against them."

(From 'cold iron' entry)

""Cold iron" is sometimes asserted to repel, contain, or harm ghosts, fairies, witches, and/or other malevolent supernatural creatures... Iron, particularly "Cold iron", was employed as a protective substance or charm against faeries. In various folklores, Supernatural creatures are held to hold an aversion to iron or even be harmed by the touch of iron. Conversely, amongst Asian traditions, there are tales of ironworking fairy."

"In mythology, the term "cold iron" is sometimes only applied to cold-worked iron of meteoric origin, or having fallen from a meteor, as such metal has never been heated by human agency. Mined iron must be smelted first, so such iron may or may not be considered "cold iron", depending on the source consulted."

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Does that really make a reliable jump to a solution for when a thing that's vaguely monstrous (which you probably can't identify from a casual encounter, BTW) is about to eat your face? 'Cause, hey, according to your "research", if the fae is from Asia, the iron thing may not work. And hey, what is actually cold iron anyway? Does my chef's knife count?

Misinformation, rumors, and contradictory information can damage the "availability" of a fact just as sure as being sequestered in a library can. It's easy to find just about anything out. It's harder to find out if anything is verifiably true.

(Side Note: The Stoker's Dracula thing is specifically called out in the setting as being practically a manual for the killing of Black Court vampires. So a concession has to be made there to what the Jim sayeth. Otherwise, I'd probably put vampire weaknesses in the same category as the factual efficacy of cold iron - material commonly written about it, with not a whole lot of it reliably lining up and therefore damaging the potential to verify anything except through detailed supernatural research. Hence, +1.)


-Lenny

Korwin:

--- Quote from: LCDarkwood on April 07, 2010, 08:21:52 AM ---(Side Note: The Stoker's Dracula thing is specifically called out in the setting as being practically a manual for the killing of Black Court vampires. So a concession has to be made there to what the Jim sayeth. Otherwise, I'd probably put vampire weaknesses in the same category as the factual efficacy of cold iron - material commonly written about it, with not a whole lot of it reliably lining up and therefore damaging the potential to verify anything except through detailed supernatural research. Hence, +1.)
-Lenny

--- End quote ---

Yeah but who knows that Bram Stockers book is a manual? Those who allready know the Iron weakness of fairies?
Another thing, the RPG is written in-Game. So it exists In-Game? So there is an manuall for fairies (and Red Court, etc.) too...  ;)

And an question, how common are fairies? (In the books they are so common, that Murphy has Iron Bullets [Small Favor] in her gun)
But in generall?
At the moment it would make sense for an Char. to have Iron weapons as an precaution.

SoulCatcher78:
I think the bullets you are referring to are stell jacketed rounds.  In the spirit of the game I would consider any iron based metal to be treated as "the bane".

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