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The Catch for Fairies
LCDarkwood:
--- Quote from: Deadmanwalking on April 06, 2010, 09:56:16 AM ---Possibly it's based on the fact that, frankly, not everyone does know about Cold Iron's effect on he Fae. It'd be easy to find in research, but you probably need to be in the magical community to know it off the top of your head.
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Yeah. I don't think we assumed that every Dick and Jane on the Paranet knows about the cold iron thing. So +1 for that, and +2 for availability.
I'll flag the Faerie Ladies, but it might already have been flagged. Thanks for the catch.
-Lenny
Carabas:
--- Quote from: LCDarkwood on April 06, 2010, 08:49:13 PM ---Yeah. I don't think we assumed that every Dick and Jane on the Paranet knows about the cold iron thing.
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You can find out about the whole cold iron thing on wikipedia, of all places.
And every gamer who has ever played in a WoD Changeling game knows about it.
How more commonly known can one get? ;)
Deadmanwalking:
--- Quote from: LCDarkwood on April 06, 2010, 08:49:13 PM ---I'll flag the Faerie Ladies, but it might already have been flagged. Thanks for the catch.
-Lenny
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Check out the Typo thread, I've got a couple of posts listing stuff like that in the Our World character entries. And you're very welcome.
--- Quote from: Korwin on April 06, 2010, 07:34:56 PM ---I'm not really disagreeing with the +3. But I would think the Red Court would warrant the same threatment. (or does he get it allready?)
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Their Catch is actually only +2. Presumably because "sunlight and holy stuff" is harder to come by than Cold Iron. And the additional belly weakness requires knowing exactly what you're doing. And because the whole Dracula thing (while everyone knows it) includes lots of misinformation when dealing with the Red Court.
And wikipedia is still research. The test is if all people just know it, and can therefore use it casually in the midst of their first fight with the creature sans research. Gamers might, as might superstitious people (since it's in the mythology), but Joe the Minor Talent who's never done any research on the Fae? Probably not.
Obviously, people can know about Catches that require research, presumably with a Lore roll to imply they'd run into it in their reading, but not everyone does. The Black Court, well, everyone knows that shit. That's the line between +3 and +4.
And my point about the Fae looking different stands. If a person starts moving with superhuman speed and strength and attacking people, well, one of the first thought people have (particularly these days) is likely vampire. Giant ogre-thing? Not so much the average person's idea of a fairie.
Korwin:
But you get an +2 if you need only a little research.
Black Court get an +4 Catch?
There goes my idea, that +3 is the maximum for an Catch...
No the Black Vampire at OW 83 only has an +3 Catch, so maybe if the material is common (+2) and its easy to know (+2) you get only +1 for the second?
And I read more Fae stories (where they have a Iron weakness) than classical Vampire stories.
The Vampire stories I red, there are many without the classical weaknesses (Interview with an Vampire, etc.)
Deadmanwalking:
--- Quote from: Korwin on April 07, 2010, 04:10:12 AM ---But you get an +2 if you need only a little research.
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Nope, +2 is if you know it off the top of your head.
--- Quote from: Korwin on April 07, 2010, 04:10:12 AM ---Black Court get an +4 Catch?
There goes my idea, that +3 is the maximum for an Catch...
No the Black Vampire at OW 83 only has an +3 Catch, so maybe if the material is common (+2) and its easy to know (+2) you get only +1 for the second?
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The Black Court have the intervening variable of only 4 points of Toughness powers, meaning it's impossible for their Catch to be more than +3.
--- Quote from: Korwin on April 07, 2010, 04:10:12 AM ---And I read more Fae stories (where they have a Iron weakness) than classical Vampire stories.
The Vampire stories I red, there are many without the classical weaknesses (Interview with an Vampire, etc.)
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Me too, but I'm not sure we're representative of the population as a whole.
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