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Harry's Stats plus Assorted Other Stat Revisions (Small Favor through Cold Days)

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Deadmanwalking:

--- Quote from: vultur on January 12, 2013, 06:29:36 AM ---Why do you think her skills are all Great+? I don't see why she should have impressive Endurance, Might, or Fists for example, and Harry tricks her in GP (the ghost dust thing) so even her social skills probably aren't universally high.
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I do think her physical stats are that high, yeah. Or Good at least. And as for her social skills, that particular thing would be opposed by her Empathy...which I'd peg at Great, which is to say one of her lowest skills, plus she had several disadvantages in that situation, and Harry totally burned FP on that.


--- Quote from: vultur on January 12, 2013, 06:29:36 AM ---Killing two Lords of Outer Night was really impressive, but she might have taken a ton of sponsor debt on that one... really, I think a lot of that "indulge yourself" stuff in Changes might have been sponsor debt based.
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I'll have to re-read Changes to really argue about that...so wait a while and I'll perhaps do that.

Deadmanwalking:
Luccio has been adjusted slightly (well, her items have, more accurately). Just for the record.

Sanctaphrax:

--- Quote from: Deadmanwalking on January 11, 2013, 11:06:27 PM ---I suppose, but this isn't one of those.
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Both of the "look exactly like somebody" Powers do that. So the inference that looking exactly like somebody ought to include a +4 disguise bonus seems a reasonable inference to me.


--- Quote from: Deadmanwalking on January 11, 2013, 11:06:27 PM ---I disagree. It can kill or inflict Consequences, that makes it an attack. What other criteria are there for something being an attack?
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Attacks can't inflict consequences. People take consequences in order to avoid being taken out by attacks.

When you attack, you declare what you want to happen to your victim and if they aren't willing able to spend enough stress/consequences to stop your attack then that thing happens.

Thaumaturgy spells that calculate their complexity by the conflict method don't work like that. If you want to inflict a mild-consequence-level injury to me, I can't stop you by taking a consequence other than the one you want.

Thaumaturgy is its own thing, about halfway between an attack and a consequential contest.


--- Quote from: Deadmanwalking on January 11, 2013, 11:06:27 PM ---Just always have. Why would you assume the spell rules break all the other game rules in this area?
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They don't break any rules. They have their own rules. That's my reading, any-hoo.


--- Quote from: Deadmanwalking on January 11, 2013, 11:06:27 PM ---Uh...no, not really. You seem to be the one doing that (saying you always need 32 shifts regardless of circumstances). Taking someone out is enormously variable based on their current condition, willingness, and how good their defenses are. Something that can take anyone out no matter how good all that stuff is? Like that spell? Scary.
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Not necessarily 32. And I'd charge extra for take-out results that exceed normal limitations.

But you're saying that turning somebody into a dog and giving them a heart attack should have the same complexity. So why should blowing someone's heart up and giving them a heart attack have different complexities?


--- Quote from: Deadmanwalking on January 11, 2013, 11:06:27 PM ---Not really. Willingness really should matter in how easy it is to perform magic on someone.
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Not what I meant. I meant the issue is that supposedly-impressive magic can be performed for fun by extremely weak spellcasters.

They talk about how difficulty it is to get the biology right when transforming people in the books. Why would you let people ignore all that difficulty?

Jebm:
I could have sworn Luccio had a blasting rod in Small Favor, right after Micheal kills the last of the Hobs

Mrmdubois:
She has a small, slender staff.  It's in Dead Beat too.

I don't think there's really been any indication of what bonuses it might give though.

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