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Re: Lara and Harry sitting in a tree.......?
« Reply #30 on: May 09, 2022, 06:12:55 AM »
Well we know from Inari that the full Hunger doesn't kick in until after the first kill. Connie also may not have a kill(unknown) and now her love with Irwin may prevent full awakening just like Inari.

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« Reply #31 on: May 09, 2022, 10:53:32 AM »


  But they were....

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Re: Lara and Harry sitting in a tree.......?
« Reply #32 on: May 09, 2022, 11:14:52 AM »
She’s a half Whamp? Enhanced strength, healing, reflexes, not quite up to the full Whamp level but no glamour, come hither or true love protection? That was Susan’s situation as a half Ramp, she was stronger and faster and would have been longer lived, not up to full Red level, but no skin suit, full addictive drool or subject to items of faith.

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« Reply #33 on: May 09, 2022, 12:32:47 PM »
Well we know from Inari that the full Hunger doesn't kick in until after the first kill. Connie also may not have a kill(unknown) and now her love with Irwin may prevent full awakening just like Inari.

We know that the Hunger doesn't kick in until the first feeding. Connie proves that it doesn't require the kill. We know that Irwin was Connies first lover so we know she doesn't have a kill. We know that her Hunger is fully active and from the night of orgy it can absorb more lifeforce from Irwin than a vanilla human contains. What Connie doesn't have is the soul scarring from having killed her first lover, something Whamp parents have considered a necessary rite of passage.

What we don't know is if Jim has plans to do much with this info before Harry ends all Hunger. And whether that last will occur after having destroyed the Black Court or before, though I think after.

Harry Dresden, destroyer of all three Western vampire courts (only the Jade remains).

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Re: Lara and Harry sitting in a tree.......?
« Reply #34 on: May 09, 2022, 01:26:53 PM »
Harry ends World Hunger?

I can see Harry killing the three main vampire courts, the Black is up next Drakul saw to that.

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« Reply #35 on: May 09, 2022, 01:37:07 PM »
Harry ends World Hunger?

I can see Harry killing the three main vampire courts, the Black is up next Drakul saw to that.

 I think it gets complicated as far as the White Court is concerned.  The Hunger Demon is what it is, not unlike a tiger.  Some of the Court members are evil, but others are not, but they are driven by their Hunger.  I don't know how much we can draw on as far as Connie goes, she did feed on a Bigfoot and not a vanilla human, so the first feeding onto death may still hold true, or it could be a matter of education and learning self control. 

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Re: Lara and Harry sitting in a tree.......?
« Reply #36 on: May 09, 2022, 02:23:27 PM »
My theory is that the Hunger is a perverted form of what the Whamps originally were, we will probably find out Drakul was responsible under one of his previous names for what they are now, that’s the source of the beef between the Blamps and the Whamps.

In killing Drakul it may not end the Black Court, it might forever change the White.

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« Reply #37 on: May 09, 2022, 02:31:41 PM »
We know that the Hunger doesn't kick in until the first feeding. Connie proves that it doesn't require the kill. We know that Irwin was Connies first lover so we know she doesn't have a kill. We know that her Hunger is fully active and from the night of orgy it can absorb more lifeforce from Irwin than a vanilla human contains. What Connie doesn't have is the soul scarring from having killed her first lover, something Whamp parents have considered a necessary rite of passage.

What we don't know is if Jim has plans to do much with this info before Harry ends all Hunger. And whether that last will occur after having destroyed the Black Court or before, though I think after.

Harry Dresden, destroyer of all three Western vampire courts (only the Jade remains).

Inari had the Hunger when she was locked in the room with Dresden and she fed on him but just with beginning nibbles. Her Hunger never fully awakened when she with her porn star partner because she was in love and didn't feed to a kill.

We don't know if she's a normal human now or like Connie and has partial powers.

And it could be that the special thing about Connie is the pairing with Irwin. Maybe Connie is a normal Whamp just lucky enough to have a partner too powerful for her to kill with a feed who also recovers faster than her Hunger builds.

The Dresdenverse is all about power. Maybe if Harry gets a Mantle that gives him a big power up, he'll be able to handle Lara full-time. But I doubt that could happen before the BAT and then only if Jim decides to sail on that ship.

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Re: Lara and Harry sitting in a tree.......?
« Reply #38 on: May 09, 2022, 03:19:43 PM »
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Inari had the Hunger when she was locked in the room with Dresden and she fed on him but just with beginning nibbles. Her Hunger never fully awakened when she with her porn star partner because she was in love and didn't feed to a kill.

If I remember correctly Inari never fed on Harry at all, not even a nibble.  The reason being Harry understood right away what was happening and he also had no interest of that kind in a young teenage girl nor fatal statutory rape.
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We don't know if she's a normal human now or like Connie and has partial powers.

If her Hunger Demon died, she is just a vanilla human, no powers. 

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« Reply #39 on: May 09, 2022, 03:56:44 PM »
If I remember correctly Inari never fed on Harry at all, not even a nibble.  The reason being Harry understood right away what was happening and he also had no interest of that kind in a young teenage girl nor fatal statutory rape.
If her Hunger Demon died, she is just a vanilla human, no powers.

Inari stopped with Harry because her lips were burned.
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Her eyes flashed pure and empty white, and her skin began to grow luminous and pearlescent.  I tried to fumble some words out of my mouth, to tell her to stop.  They didn't get past my tingling lips. ... Cold started spreading through me -- delicious, sweet cold that stole warmth and strength even as the pleasure began.

And then the damnedest thing happened.

Inari let out a panicked shriek and staggered back from me. [pp. 154-155 of Blood Rites

That reads like Inari's Hunger was awakened and it was beginning the feeding when the burn shocked Inari out of it.

Piecing the bits from Blood Rites and Bigfoot on Campus together I took it that the lack of knowledge of the Hunger means its first feeding is uncontrolled by the host (you can't control that which you don't know you have to control) and that first killing feed gives the demon a hold on the host it wouldn't otherwise have.

Because of Irwin, Connie has her Hunger awake and intact, but her soul isn't bound by it like those who killed their first lover. She remains an innocent in that way.  Not sure what all the ramifications of that might be. She probably still doesn't know to exert control, or how to control the extent of the feeding. With Irwin she doesn't need to worry about it.

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Re: Lara and Harry sitting in a tree.......?
« Reply #40 on: May 09, 2022, 05:10:23 PM »
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Inari stopped with Harry because her lips were burned.

Which means she didn't get a nibble, that is what gave her a chance to starve out the Hunger.
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Piecing the bits from Blood Rites and Bigfoot on Campus together I took it that the lack of knowledge of the Hunger means its first feeding is uncontrolled by the host (you can't control that which you don't know you have to control) and that first killing feed gives the demon a hold on the host it wouldn't otherwise have.
No, you don't have control, and that is what happened to Thomas, the victim was dead and he was hooked before he knew.. I seem to remember that Lord Raith was very cagey that way, making sure his kids didn't know so when the Hunger awakens they have no control, then it is too late.

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Re: Lara and Harry sitting in a tree.......?
« Reply #41 on: May 09, 2022, 06:20:07 PM »
 To answer the original question:
It looks like a medieval style marriage, Knight to Lady, as arranged by Mab, the knight's queen. Therefore, there won't be any latex, at least not until a heir is conceived, cementing the relationship between the two nations. That said, it'd be foolish to assume that Mab would let her knight - who she invested quite a few years in shaping, and who commands a significant amount of Winter power- become a slave to anyone (else), even an ally.
In Changes, Lea put the demon part of Susan an Martin to sleep. It's not much of a stretch to say that Mab could teach Harry a similar technique, or at least nudge him to obtain the knowledge for himself. This way they'd be able to consumate their marriage, and everybody wins.
I kinda like Lara and Harry as a match. They've always had a bit of chemistry.
هل أخذت الغاب مثلي منزلاً دون القصور
فتتبعت السواقي وتسلقت الصخور
هل تحممت بعطره وتنشفت بنور
وشربت الفجر خمراً من كؤوس من أثير

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Re: Lara and Harry sitting in a tree.......?
« Reply #42 on: May 09, 2022, 06:46:53 PM »

I kinda like Lara and Harry as a match. They've always had a bit of chemistry.

Lara prefers biology.

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Re: Lara and Harry sitting in a tree.......?
« Reply #43 on: May 09, 2022, 07:45:04 PM »
Which means she didn't get a nibble, that is what gave her a chance to starve out the Hunger.

Harry feels a "sweet cold that stole warmth and strength" seeping into him and Inari's eyes are full silver. Clearly, that's the Hunger drawing out a bit of his lifeforce in a more obvious fashion than Thomas ever got while he was nibbling his salon clients.

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Re: Lara and Harry sitting in a tree.......?
« Reply #44 on: May 09, 2022, 08:03:31 PM »
Harry feels a "sweet cold that stole warmth and strength" seeping into him and Inari's eyes are full silver. Clearly, that's the Hunger drawing out a bit of his lifeforce in a more obvious fashion than Thomas ever got while he was nibbling his salon clients.

I still don't think so, simply because both Lara and Thomas seemed to think that if she truly loved the guy she went off with there was an excellent chance that the Hunger would be burnt out.  I don't think there would have been a chance if it had even gotten a taste.  I think that fact that her lips blistered so quickly, Harry was protected and she couldn't feed.  I think there is a fine line, yes, in prep for the feeding the vamp gives pleasure, that makes the victim vulnerable.  It was close, but Harry was still fighting her, poor little puppy Mouse was beside himself.. Had he been full grown Inari would have ended up the victim.