Author Topic: Gard's Bullets  (Read 3556 times)

Offline Con

  • Posty McPostington
  • ***
  • Posts: 1416
    • View Profile
Gard's Bullets
« on: December 24, 2018, 09:43:36 AM »
So I just reread Even Hand and Marcone used a bullet that killed Admiral Nelson at Trifalgar, it made me wonder what other bullets Gard could provide Marcone with.

The three that come to mind for me are Abraham Lincoln bullet shot by John Wilkes Booth's Derenger, Archduke Ferdinand at the outbreak of World War 1 and also JFK

Any other that come to mind?

Offline Mr. Death

  • Posty McPostington
  • ***
  • Posts: 7965
  • Not all those who wander are lost
    • View Profile
    • The C-Team Podcast
Re: Gard's Bullets
« Reply #1 on: December 24, 2018, 04:57:57 PM »
I don't think she'd have any of those.

Nelson was killed in battle. None of the others were. Having Nelson's bullet makes a lot more sense than her having the bullets for assassination targets.
Compels solve everything!

http://blur.by/1KgqJg6 My first book: "Brothers of the Curled Isles"

Quote from: Cozarkian
Not every word JB rights is a conspiracy. Sometimes, he's just telling a story.

https://www.youtube.com/channel/UC_T_mld7Acnm-0FVUiaKDPA The C-Team Podcast

Offline Mr. Death

  • Posty McPostington
  • ***
  • Posts: 7965
  • Not all those who wander are lost
    • View Profile
    • The C-Team Podcast
Re: Gard's Bullets
« Reply #2 on: December 24, 2018, 08:24:32 PM »
That said, the only other historically famous guy I know of that died of a gunshot in battle is John Sedgwick.
Compels solve everything!

http://blur.by/1KgqJg6 My first book: "Brothers of the Curled Isles"

Quote from: Cozarkian
Not every word JB rights is a conspiracy. Sometimes, he's just telling a story.

https://www.youtube.com/channel/UC_T_mld7Acnm-0FVUiaKDPA The C-Team Podcast

Offline wardenferry419

  • Posty McPostington
  • ***
  • Posts: 5265
  • Can I get a Hells Bells !!!!
    • View Profile
Re: Gard's Bullets
« Reply #3 on: December 24, 2018, 10:46:05 PM »
Remember the Alamo!
Make Mine Butcher!
Who do I have to turn to ice to get a whiskey on the rocks?

Offline KurtinStGeorge

  • Posty McPostington
  • ***
  • Posts: 4202
  • Oh no, there goes Tokyo
    • View Profile
Re: Gard's Bullets
« Reply #4 on: December 26, 2018, 09:45:12 AM »
Manfred von Richthofen.  If anyone could find the bullet that killed him it would be Gard.  (I believe it was a through and through wound.)  George Armstrong Custer at Little Bighorn.  Major General Charles Gordon; sometimes called "Chinese Gordon," who was killed at the siege of Khartoum.  (Though no one knows exactly how he died, it's likely he was shot.)  Then again, why does it have to be a soldier?  Couldn't be someone killed in a gunfight like Billy Clanton at (actually near) the O.K. Corral or one of the Dalton gang members killed at Coffeyville?  How about Alexander Hamilton?
Those are my principles, and if you don't like them... well, I have others.

Groucho Marx

Offline Con

  • Posty McPostington
  • ***
  • Posts: 1416
    • View Profile
Re: Gard's Bullets
« Reply #5 on: December 27, 2018, 03:32:01 AM »
Come to think of it why does it necessarily have to be a bullet. What about the Crossbow that killed King Richard the Lionheart.

Offline Avernite

  • Conversationalist
  • **
  • Posts: 720
    • View Profile
Re: Gard's Bullets
« Reply #6 on: December 27, 2018, 10:36:55 AM »
Close analogue could be the cannonball that took out Michiel de Ruyter, but obviously that'd be a bit big for a gun.

Charles XII died during a siege from a 'projectile' according to wiki.

The stone David threw (swung? slinged?) to take out Goliath.

There's the arrow that took Harold out at Hastings (debated if it was through the eye or if that's just Norman propaganda).

Offline Arjan

  • Seriously?
  • ***
  • Posts: 13235
    • View Profile
Re: Gard's Bullets
« Reply #7 on: December 27, 2018, 01:36:15 PM »
Close analogue could be the cannonball that took out Michiel de Ruyter, but obviously that'd be a bit big for a gun.

Charles XII died during a siege from a 'projectile' according to wiki.

The stone David threw (swung? slinged?) to take out Goliath.

There's the arrow that took Harold out at Hastings (debated if it was through the eye or if that's just Norman propaganda).
When there are a lot of arrows flying around most of them will do minimal damage because of shields and armor but there are always a few that find weak spots. You have to look around so your eye will always be a weak spot. It is not like someone had one arrow, aimed and got Harald in the eye. Bad luck really but something that can happen.

WG+++: The White God is Mister.
SH[Elaine+++]

Offline Avernite

  • Conversationalist
  • **
  • Posts: 720
    • View Profile
Re: Gard's Bullets
« Reply #8 on: December 27, 2018, 02:04:31 PM »
When there are a lot of arrows flying around most of them will do minimal damage because of shields and armor but there are always a few that find weak spots. You have to look around so your eye will always be a weak spot. It is not like someone had one arrow, aimed and got Harald in the eye. Bad luck really but something that can happen.
It can happen, sure, but it's still widely debated whether he really got shot in the eye, or if this was later myth-forming and he just died to a lance or hacked to bits or whatever.

Offline Arjan

  • Seriously?
  • ***
  • Posts: 13235
    • View Profile
Re: Gard's Bullets
« Reply #9 on: December 27, 2018, 03:30:25 PM »
What we really need is the rooftile that killed king Pyrrhus of Epirus:

"While he was fighting an Argive soldier, the soldier's old mother, who was watching from a rooftop, threw a tile which knocked him from his horse and broke part of his spine, paralyzing him. Whether he was alive or not after the blow is unknown, but his death was assured when a Macedonian soldier named Zopyrus, though frightened by the look on the face of the unconscious king, hesitantly and ineptly beheaded his motionless body."

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pyrrhus_of_Epirus#Last_wars_and_death
WG+++: The White God is Mister.
SH[Elaine+++]

Offline Arjan

  • Seriously?
  • ***
  • Posts: 13235
    • View Profile
Re: Gard's Bullets
« Reply #10 on: December 29, 2018, 11:30:43 AM »
Being just interested in the use of roof tiles in warfare I came upon this:

https://grbs.library.duke.edu/article/viewFile/2921/5833

20 pages about how heavy these tiles were (quite heavy) how dangerous and who threw them in what circumstances. I found it quite interesting.
WG+++: The White God is Mister.
SH[Elaine+++]

Offline wardenferry419

  • Posty McPostington
  • ***
  • Posts: 5265
  • Can I get a Hells Bells !!!!
    • View Profile
Re: Gard's Bullets
« Reply #11 on: December 30, 2018, 06:20:04 AM »
Saved it for later.
Make Mine Butcher!
Who do I have to turn to ice to get a whiskey on the rocks?