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The Dresden Files => DF Spoilers => Topic started by: Con on December 24, 2018, 09:43:36 AM

Title: Gard's Bullets
Post by: Con on December 24, 2018, 09:43:36 AM
So I just reread Even Hand and Marcone used a bullet that killed Admiral Nelson at Trifalgar, it made me wonder what other bullets Gard could provide Marcone with.

The three that come to mind for me are Abraham Lincoln bullet shot by John Wilkes Booth's Derenger, Archduke Ferdinand at the outbreak of World War 1 and also JFK

Any other that come to mind?
Title: Re: Gard's Bullets
Post by: Mr. Death on December 24, 2018, 04:57:57 PM
I don't think she'd have any of those.

Nelson was killed in battle. None of the others were. Having Nelson's bullet makes a lot more sense than her having the bullets for assassination targets.
Title: Re: Gard's Bullets
Post by: Mr. Death on December 24, 2018, 08:24:32 PM
That said, the only other historically famous guy I know of that died of a gunshot in battle is John Sedgwick (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/John_Sedgwick).
Title: Re: Gard's Bullets
Post by: wardenferry419 on December 24, 2018, 10:46:05 PM
Remember the Alamo!
Title: Re: Gard's Bullets
Post by: KurtinStGeorge on December 26, 2018, 09:45:12 AM
Manfred von Richthofen.  If anyone could find the bullet that killed him it would be Gard.  (I believe it was a through and through wound.)  George Armstrong Custer at Little Bighorn.  Major General Charles Gordon; sometimes called "Chinese Gordon," who was killed at the siege of Khartoum.  (Though no one knows exactly how he died, it's likely he was shot.)  Then again, why does it have to be a soldier?  Couldn't be someone killed in a gunfight like Billy Clanton at (actually near) the O.K. Corral or one of the Dalton gang members killed at Coffeyville?  How about Alexander Hamilton?
Title: Re: Gard's Bullets
Post by: Con on December 27, 2018, 03:32:01 AM
Come to think of it why does it necessarily have to be a bullet. What about the Crossbow that killed King Richard the Lionheart.
Title: Re: Gard's Bullets
Post by: Avernite on December 27, 2018, 10:36:55 AM
Close analogue could be the cannonball that took out Michiel de Ruyter, but obviously that'd be a bit big for a gun.

Charles XII died during a siege from a 'projectile' according to wiki.

The stone David threw (swung? slinged?) to take out Goliath.

There's the arrow that took Harold out at Hastings (debated if it was through the eye or if that's just Norman propaganda).
Title: Re: Gard's Bullets
Post by: Arjan on December 27, 2018, 01:36:15 PM
Close analogue could be the cannonball that took out Michiel de Ruyter, but obviously that'd be a bit big for a gun.

Charles XII died during a siege from a 'projectile' according to wiki.

The stone David threw (swung? slinged?) to take out Goliath.

There's the arrow that took Harold out at Hastings (debated if it was through the eye or if that's just Norman propaganda).
When there are a lot of arrows flying around most of them will do minimal damage because of shields and armor but there are always a few that find weak spots. You have to look around so your eye will always be a weak spot. It is not like someone had one arrow, aimed and got Harald in the eye. Bad luck really but something that can happen.

Title: Re: Gard's Bullets
Post by: Avernite on December 27, 2018, 02:04:31 PM
When there are a lot of arrows flying around most of them will do minimal damage because of shields and armor but there are always a few that find weak spots. You have to look around so your eye will always be a weak spot. It is not like someone had one arrow, aimed and got Harald in the eye. Bad luck really but something that can happen.
It can happen, sure, but it's still widely debated whether he really got shot in the eye, or if this was later myth-forming and he just died to a lance or hacked to bits or whatever.
Title: Re: Gard's Bullets
Post by: Arjan on December 27, 2018, 03:30:25 PM
What we really need is the rooftile that killed king Pyrrhus of Epirus:

"While he was fighting an Argive soldier, the soldier's old mother, who was watching from a rooftop, threw a tile which knocked him from his horse and broke part of his spine, paralyzing him. Whether he was alive or not after the blow is unknown, but his death was assured when a Macedonian soldier named Zopyrus, though frightened by the look on the face of the unconscious king, hesitantly and ineptly beheaded his motionless body."

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pyrrhus_of_Epirus#Last_wars_and_death
Title: Re: Gard's Bullets
Post by: Arjan on December 29, 2018, 11:30:43 AM
Being just interested in the use of roof tiles in warfare I came upon this:

https://grbs.library.duke.edu/article/viewFile/2921/5833

20 pages about how heavy these tiles were (quite heavy) how dangerous and who threw them in what circumstances. I found it quite interesting.
Title: Re: Gard's Bullets
Post by: wardenferry419 on December 30, 2018, 06:20:04 AM
Saved it for later.