Intimidation aoe

[Discipol]

Greetings, I was wondering if making an intimidation check, say, a dragon roaring, would be a aoe attack (-2) or one would need a stunt for something like this.

If it can be sprayed, it wouldn't be fair, because when spraying, the weapon damage stays the same with the attack being divided.

Also that pesky common sense comes to mind...

[Tedronai]

A stunt, if not Incite Emotion: Fear (and possibly Awe) with a multiple target upgrade, would likely be appropriate.

[Sanctaphrax]

Maybe use the public speaking rules?

Probably tack on a -2 penalty for fairness's sake. But I don't think a stunt should be required, since anyone can talk to a crowd.

[Discipol]

That is what I was thinking too. where is this "speaking to crowd" thing?

[Sanctaphrax]

I think it might be one of the trappings of Performance. IIRC, Performance modifies whatever other skill you use.

[Discipol]

Nah, not interested in skill modification. It was more like a dragon rawring scaring the shit out of everyone.

Now, it is stated that I could create a scene aspect, something like "Frightful Presence" but my intention was a mental attack vs all people in a zone, including allies, but excluding myself. I have nothing against friendlyfire if it means winning.

[Silverblaze]

incite emotion: at range, zone wide

I'd have it place aspects only.

As in another thread, i think mental damage is nasty...  Plus you add that to a bad ass dragon... thats just ugly.

[Discipol]

yeah but that would be supernatural

[devonapple]

yeah but that would be supernatural

It's true. But it *is* a dragon, after all. Dragons are so supernaturally badass that if they say a little of your name, you can feel it. Adding an Incite Emotion effect to reflect this preternatural strength of presence and intimidation isn't that big of a stretch. I might even key it off of Conviction.

[Discipol]

call it Clint Eastwood then but seriously, I don't consider it a "stunt" to talk to a crowd, but I do consider the -2 fair penalty for "addressing" to several people.

[devonapple]

-2 to make it zonewide would be in keeping with other forms of attack.

[TheBiggs]

-2 for zone effects seems to be how it generally works, yeah. But zone effects have the disadvantage of menacing both allies and enemies - including yourself if you're in the affected zone. If you wanted to get rid of that, I'd probably ask for -3, maybe -4.

[spac3_pop3]

IIRC, there is a stunt that gives a bonus for specifically addressing a crowd that you might consider giving to a dragon, if you wanted to go that route.  In the one shot, "Night Fears," the Changeling pre-gen character had said stunt. Believe it was called Playing to the Crowd.  Though, as the others have stated, a full-fledged dragon is a plot device like no other.  The one that Harry met knew only his first and last name and forced him to his knees by simply flexing his metaphysical muscles.

[Sanctaphrax]

I didn't mean just have Performance modify it. I meant give a -2 penalty and hit a zone, then apply whatever rules there are for public speaking. Which if I recall correctly include Performance modifying the active skill.

[Discipol]

I agree hitting both allies and enemies, but not self. Scaring yourself is silly.

Again, don't regard the sources as a dragon, it could be anything. In the dresden rpg it doesn't matter at all.