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Re: Unsolved Mysteries Version II
« Reply #45 on: January 19, 2011, 05:22:33 AM »
How did the RC gain the upper hand and usurp the positions of the (original) Mayan pantheon?

Presumably, they've only become more powerful with time and the power they stole, and...they're still somewhat afraid of what the original Mayan deities could/would do to them if they ever came back.  So how in the world did they manage to take over in the first place?!
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Re: Unsolved Mysteries Version II
« Reply #46 on: January 19, 2011, 05:25:09 AM »
bigger question, if i may..why did the old gods leave???

Not just the mayna, but all of them.

and vis a vis 'last call'..are theyr eturning?
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Re: Unsolved Mysteries Version II
« Reply #47 on: January 19, 2011, 05:28:18 AM »
Quote from: cass on January 19, 2011, 05:22:33 AM
How did the RC gain the upper hand and usurp the positions of the (original) Mayan pantheon?

Presumably, they've only become more powerful with time and the power they stole, and...they're still somewhat afraid of what the original Mayan deities could/would do to them if they ever came back.  So how in the world did they manage to take over in the first place?!
Oblivion war, maybe?  Assuming RCVs weren't mortal, their knowledge of those gods wouldn't tie them to reality, and they did a switcheroo so the people believed in and worshiped the Lords of Outer Night, instead of the original old Mayan gods, who were thus consigned to oblivion.
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Re: Unsolved Mysteries Version II
« Reply #48 on: January 19, 2011, 05:32:17 AM »
Hmm, now there's a possibility-- the RC simply stepped in when the post was left vacant, either momentarily or completely abandoned.

I'm not so sure that any of the old gods ever left, though, just went into dormancy/hiding/powersave mode during the (fairly global) rise of the Abrahamic religions.  Why they're coming to Chicago of all places, though....I mean, why would Greek minor deities and/or mythical figures up and travel several thousand miles away from their old seats of power (Greece and environs)?
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Re: Unsolved Mysteries Version II
« Reply #49 on: January 19, 2011, 05:40:38 AM »
the short story says:

"mortlas have forgottoen the gods..they think the white god drove out the many gods. but they are here. I am  here, mortal man."- Last call

"Indeed, we withdrew and gave the world into your keeping, and what has become of it.."

Ifshe is being truthfull, the pagan gods withdrew voluntariliy for reasons of their own, as yet unknown, and are now returning because they are not happy with what mortal man has done.

On a side note, I wonder ig the hidnu gods ever left..of all the ancient religions, it is the one that is being practiced today the most by far..over a billion hindus, alst i checked.

Odin? at his absolute top, he had maybe a few million worshippers.

thats a lot of faith magic to throw around..

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Quote from: Griffyn612 on March 22, 2013, 04:42:27 PM
Yeah, but Germans and Hungarians don't pull people's theories out of their sockets when they're challenged.  Ducks are known to do that.


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Re: Unsolved Mysteries Version II
« Reply #50 on: January 19, 2011, 11:14:34 PM »
It is never really established if there were original Mayan gods to start with, it could have been the reds the whole time. I am sure someone wants to jump in now and point of that it says in the book that the red king was afraid of the Mayan gods returning but let me point out that that particular quote also mentions that it could be that he is afraid of it being a archangel or spirit of light and most of all let me point out that this is Harry's opinion of what the red king could be thinking. Harry forming his opinion based on a few seconds glance at the red king and extrapolating from that. The red king is a being that is thousands of years old that Harry has never met before in his life. I think its a long shot that Harry is able to guess exactly what he his thinking.

And on top of that even if Harry did guess correctly as to what the King was thinking in that instant that still does not offer proof that there ever were Mayan gods after all even the red king who is like I said before thousands of years old and has presumably lived in that region for most of that time doesn't really believe that there ever where Mayan gods. He would be a pretty good person to know if there were some wouldn't he?

Having said all that I will now contradict what yall are thinking and say that I do believe that the Mayan gods did exist and I myself wonder what happened to them since I don't think the Red Court would have had the power to destroy them or drive them off. Now you are wondering if I do in fact believe in the Mayan gods existing why did I wast all that time writing about how we don't really know if they ever did. Well I guess I just like to be exsact in my understanding of the facts and also like to argue with myself so I might as well make you all privy to what goes on in my head.  ;)


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Re: Unsolved Mysteries Version II
« Reply #51 on: January 20, 2011, 12:13:39 AM »
Either way, I'll add this to the list- do we need an asterisk, or not?
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Re: Unsolved Mysteries Version II
« Reply #52 on: January 20, 2011, 02:05:29 AM »
This is great. Sticky requested ;D
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Re: Unsolved Mysteries Version II
« Reply #53 on: January 20, 2011, 02:17:27 AM »
Oh, crap!  That means I actually have to go and neaten up! :o

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Re: Unsolved Mysteries Version II
« Reply #54 on: January 20, 2011, 04:24:27 AM »
Quote from: cass on January 19, 2011, 05:32:17 AM
Hmm, now there's a possibility-- the RC simply stepped in when the post was left vacant, either momentarily or completely abandoned.

That's what I assumed happened, makes the most sense to me.
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Re: Unsolved Mysteries Version II
« Reply #55 on: January 20, 2011, 05:44:40 AM »
-Who sent the ghouls to Camp Kaboom?

I thought it was pretty clear that it was the Reds but maybe not
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Re: Unsolved Mysteries Version II
« Reply #56 on: January 20, 2011, 12:31:36 PM »
What do people see when they are in a soulgaze with Harry?
Storm Front: Why are the small folk watching Harry?
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Re: Unsolved Mysteries Version II
« Reply #57 on: January 20, 2011, 02:58:40 PM »
Added the soulgaze, but what do you mean about the small folk?  Harry had to summon Toot in Storm Front.
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Re: Unsolved Mysteries Version II
« Reply #58 on: January 20, 2011, 03:05:07 PM »
page 74 Storm Front paperback
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I blinked at him, and he chortled in glee. "Hah! I love it! We're watching you, Harry Dresden!"
Now that was disconcerting. I had a sudden image of a dozen faery voyeurs lingering around my apartment's windows and peering inside. I'd have to take precautions to make sure they couldn't do that. Not that I was afraid of them, or anything. Just in case.
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Re: Unsolved Mysteries Version II
« Reply #59 on: January 20, 2011, 11:07:15 PM »
Fool Moon?- what happened with Harry's mom that made Hell lose her?
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