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I know that, but was it a Walker who infested Cat Sith?  No Walker or Outsider was mentioned there, only Nemeses. 

Harry does say he thinks Shark Face got to him and that is how he got infected.  But that is all, no Outsiders.. Harry further says; on page 427 of Cold Days.

Or later page 503 Cold Days

So, no mention of Lea or Maeve being possessed by a Walker or Outsider, merely that both got infected by contact with Morgana's athame which was tainted.  Some how Sharkface an Outsider
managed to get Cat Sith infected, however he never possessed Cat Sith.   So Justine is infected and possessed? 

My theory, just as the plan was to infest the more important members of the Winter Court to spy and undermine.. The same plan was to undermine the White Court.  Bianca wasn't blind, she may have observed the closeness between Justine and Thomas, so just as the knife was used to get to the Winter Court, Justine could eventually be used to get to the White Court.

The infestation would appear to *be* a Walker. It's not a disease they wield.

Much like the cornerhounds are avatars a single being has its hand pressed within with multiple vessels.

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Not well after, at the end of Blood Rites Justine is in a wheel chair having almost died saving Thomas.  She becomes Lara's secretary shortly after..  Problem, Harry calls it Nemeses, an Outsider, and a Walker.. We know that a Walker is an Outsider knight, but are Outsiders really Nemeses?

I don't follow the last question.

The Outsider Walker named "He Who Walks Beside" is commonly known as Nemesis. He's a specific Outsider, who specializes in infiltration. I rather think Demonreach was setup to deny him access to hosts he'd otherwise infected, and therefore free to deny their natures.

On the overall topic: Nemesis-infected Maeve told Justine she'd be seeing things Maeve's way soon. This is either recognition of a latent infection, or identification of where Nemesis "jumped," if that is its mechanism, when Maeve died. At that point, a couple of years prior, Justine was an ideal target, close to Lara, etc. I rather think people are looking too far back for Justine's exposure.

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But it's so good this way! An extension of his current bohemian lifetstyle

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Oh I think they already know, or have been told by Mr Sunshine.. Timing is everything, right now might not be the time, plus remember they are all about redemption, not killing hosts.  I'd love to see a scene where Sir Waldo logically and genitally talks Marcone into giving up his coin..

Was this a deliberate pun? Or was it supposed to be "gently?" Because right now it implies using his reproductive equipment, which while funny is a bit off.

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DF Spoilers / Re: So is anyone going to address... [BG Spoilers]
« on: October 04, 2020, 03:59:43 PM »
well, as far as the mantle he's creating, that's easy: He's the 'Za Lord

Options:
Za Lord
Warden
Winter Knight
Starborn

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DF Spoilers / Re: Brighter Future Society Assets, Resources, and Services
« on: October 03, 2020, 11:37:30 PM »
Is Tera necessary, or can the Alphas teach their talent on their own?

They were vanilla before.

An army of werewolves- or even justcteaching all the minor Paranet talents

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DF Spoilers / Re: Brighter Future Society Assets, Resources, and Services
« on: October 03, 2020, 11:22:21 PM »
Georgia is training to be a psychologist, she would be a good choice to help the kids in a Demonreach to rehabilitate, and to help those not so far gone  through the BFS. I would expect the Paranetters to help identify major talents early to allow them to be taught before they go off the rails, so there should be less as a consequence. Basically Harry is in the position to compete with the White Council in North America, but nowhere else yet.

This means at some point the North American Wizards will need to choose.

You left out money. Harry is likely to use at least some of his diamonds (and probably Murphy’s) to endow the BFS, and I do believe that someone like paranoid Gary who is a low grade oracle can make outstanding investment decisions. Frankly if Harry let’s a Paranetter make investments for him, he may soon amass a fortune which would allow him to make serious investments, like taking control of a local pizza delivery chain, which would indeed make him the Za Lord.

South too- the man who freed them from the Red Court? The Paranet is def among groups who moved in.

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DF Spoilers / Re: Battleground questions (potential spoilers)
« on: October 03, 2020, 07:46:38 PM »
Hello,

Ive reread the series a few times over the gears.
I’ve never taken notes on the series before. I feel like I probably should have. With each book I have so many new questions.

For example in one of the books, Harry summoned a demon that led  on that his father died of super natural causes. In battleground we find that Harry was basically bred by the white Council. And also makes me wonder if the white council had Harry’s father put to death for some unknown reason.

I have been trying to review the books and find out more information on being star born and what that might mean.
Ebeneezer let on that a star born has power over outsiders.
This makes me think that multiple groups are interested and harry. The first being the white council even though he was kicked out. The second is mab, Harry already Is ensnared by. The third is the outsiders. I think that if any one of the groups particularly had a star born.
That specific group could accomplish a great many things. I do realize there are several Stan borns mentioned in the book such as Dracul, possibily Elaine. (Im sure i missed some others. It is late and im tired lol.)

I wondered if the outsiders are doing something similar to what Palpatine did to Anakin Skywalker. Which was to make him feel so alone he needed to make a deal after deal, sell his soul and join the Darkside. I’m also wondering if Mab is doing the same thing, just to use him for her ultimate goal whatever that may be.

Another question I have is Molly. She is stealing kids and Harry just seems to be OK with this? I always hoped that Molly would remain Molly and not become a replica of the previous winter lady. However, after red caps approval of Molly. I believe our (Harry’s) Molly has already gone. I just can’t see our Molly stealing kids. Even if she were stealing up ones abandoned, abused, or neglected and giving them a loving home. (That isn’t stated anywhere, im just using that as an example)

Before battle grounds, I have been wondering for a while what harry looked like from other peoples perspectives. I think if Ramirez or some of the other council members are not affected by nemesis. They are right to be scared of Harry. They are right not to trust him.
Harry has not always been the most open and honest person, believing that telling people what they need to know or hear certain moment is the best way to protect them. I believe doing this has frustrated the closest to him.
This could be why Harry was kicked out of the white council.
He may have also been kicked out due to whomever is manipulating events because Harry to make more deals so to speak so that he sells his soul little by little, to try to keep doing what he believes is, right.”

Anyways. Sorry for the long post i just really want to see what any of you think about molly and why she has been taking kids.

They're not human children. They're Winter Fae children being drafted to go to boot camp to support Winter's army. They take them young to train them up in the old way, and there is a tithe owed by Winter's vassals each generation of x%.

And yes, Molly hates it

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DF Spoilers / Re: Who runs the White Council?
« on: October 02, 2020, 08:29:32 PM »
Hope he's really Chauncy in disguise.

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Yeah, but Lash could only offer him power, where as Lara.......... ::)  :P

Offers feeling invincible.

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To be fair, Harry managed to redeem the Shadow of a Fallen Angel. A Whampire would seem to be easier to do that to than Lash. :P Not saying it'll happen, of course, but it's not out of the realm of possibility.

Eh, I'm partial to their relationship being platonic, but them still having to physically sleep together. Can you hear Harry?

"I'm not having sex with the queen of the succubi, wife or no wife. But she sleeps in the buff, man- in the buff! Jerk!"

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Changes. It's revealed that Ebenezer was the target of Ariana because she knew. Think it was in the denoument.

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DF Spoilers / Re: Vampires
« on: October 02, 2020, 02:37:14 PM »
That's kind of my thinking. I think the progenitor of the White Court was returned from the dead, fully alive.

Ish.

If I'm right, then the Hunger is the still-running resurrection spell, and drawing on their Hunger is simply brutalizing their body- a la the Winter Mantle- and having their Hunger heal it.

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DF Spoilers / Re: Inconsistent characters & storytelling
« on: October 02, 2020, 02:35:16 PM »
Why should Harry have to defend himself against accusations that any response would lead right back to the white counsel. Harry is a wolf and Carlos is a sheep. Do you stop and explain yourself to a roach? lol But seriously. JimB has way to much story for PT and BG jammed into those two books. He could of easily put down a 3rd book and expanded on relationships and scenery as well as a few other things

The Council are sheep. Carlos is either a fox or wolfhound. Carlos thinks Harry a rabid wolfhound at this point, instead of a wolf who used to play nice.

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DF Spoilers / Re: HUGE BATTLE GROUND SPOILERS - (Un)Answered questions
« on: October 01, 2020, 10:00:34 PM »
Maybe Marcone changed his mind, he is residing in Marcone’s grey matter after all. Namshiel has had hosts he can dominate, Marcone must have been a revelation.

What is the goal?

Every Fallen must have one.

Is Thorned Namshiel's goal to simply amass more and more knowledge and power? Then he doesn't need to dominate Marcone; leaving Marcone as he is allows a steady supply of Namshiel's preferred drug.

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