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DF Spoilers / Re: Mother Winter Blackstaff Back
« on: October 14, 2021, 07:15:05 PM »
Maybe, but I think what Mab is getting at is both hate and love are emotions, reason for the most part isn't.   You can counter both love and hate with reason.

She said reason was the opposite of hate, not love.  She didn't say reason was the counter to love.

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DF Spoilers / Re: Mother Winter Blackstaff Back
« on: October 14, 2021, 07:12:31 PM »
So it may be a god killing machine, perhaps because most gods don't apply reason, maybe because the don't feel they need to.  It makes them vulnerable to the likes of the Eye.  Reason, is what Eve gained at the Tree of Knowledge when she took a bite.

Read Mab's quote again: "Ethniu could not destroy me with a single blast of the Eye."

Then look at why I said " It would have killed Mab if she took one or maybe two more blasts with it.  She barely survived the first one."

She knew she wouldn't be killed with the first blast.  But she couldn't have taken another, in my opinion, based on how damaged she was from it.  She would have eventually been killed by it.



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DF Spoilers / A reason Dresden was kicked from the White Council
« on: October 13, 2021, 07:23:28 PM »
The White Council has come to realize the Black Council is real.  They kicked Dresden out knowing that eventually he would be contacted by the Black Council to be recruited.  They want Dresden to accept, and go undercover (they will hold something over him to do it).... 

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DF Spoilers / Re: Anyone catch "It" in Battle Ground?
« on: October 13, 2021, 07:18:00 PM »
you are what you eat, especially in the DF.

Perhaps by consuming more Starborn, Drakul gains even more power over Outsiders, or the opposite.  I wonder if Drakul is a Starborn that is the opposite of Dresden, and has power over different Being's that are otherwise resistant to Outsiders or something?

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DF Spoilers / Re: Mother Winter Blackstaff Back
« on: October 13, 2021, 07:15:28 PM »
According to Jim, the Eye is a god killing weapon.  He said even Uriel could be killed by it eventually (if he just sat there and did nothing).  It would have killed Mab if she took one or maybe two more blasts with it.  She barely survived the first one.  The Mantle would have went to Molly right away I'd think.

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DF Spoilers / Re: Mother Winter Blackstaff Back
« on: October 13, 2021, 06:13:00 AM »
I have a theory that the Eye did kill Mab it's just taking longer. Like a mortal wound infected or a curse.

It's a good theory but I don't think it's correct, here's why.  Generally when something like this happens, the afflicted person grows weaker over time.  Mab hasn't.  She was very weak, and frail after the blast from the Eye.  Later on she had returned to normal.  If she had been mortally wounded, I don't think she'd have gotten stronger, and healthier afterwards.

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DF Spoilers / Re: Mother Winter Blackstaff Back
« on: October 12, 2021, 07:12:59 PM »
Jim called Mother Winter Baba Yaga.  There are similarities with Baba Yaga, and Hecate.  It could be that Baba Yaga is Winter, 3 women, and Hecate is Summer, 3 women. 
"In Slavic folklore, Baba Yaga (/ˌbɑːbə ˈjɑːɡə/; Russian: Баба-Яга, romanized: Baba-Yaga, pronounced [ˈbabə jɪˈɡa] (About this soundlisten))[a] is a supernatural being (or a trio of sisters of the same name)"

"However, it is noticeable that, like Hecate, Baba Yaga presides over a wide, diverse array of domains and functions."

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DF Spoilers / Re: Mother Winter Blackstaff Back
« on: October 12, 2021, 07:03:27 PM »
If I can find it I'll post it. At some point I had the idea that the Mantle had been split vertically, 2 Mothers, 2 Queens and 2 Ladies. Somebody shot me down with a WOJ where Jim says otherwise.  I'll try to find it.

This isn't that but I found this quote interesting

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The Mothers are extremely powerful beings, I mean, they’re really really well, you can tell because they hardly ever show up on the real world. In the Dresden Files universe if you don’t show up on the real world, it’s because you’re too big to walk around there. For instance,  I think in the third book, when the Dragon is talking about how the Earth couldn’t bear his weight, it’s not that the Earth itself would literally crack, it’s that reality would have issues trying to contain him, because every time he coughs, it would bend around like Neo in the Matrix. So, they spend most of their time NOT on the real world, they spend it hanging around in the Nevernever, all the really heavyweight guys do that. If you’re in the real world, well, the problem is that you’re in the world, and you’re kind of mortal, and something could come along and try and whack you, if they’re fast enough, or good enough, or lucky enough. Which makes Odin a kind of special guy, because he doesn’t mind it, he thinks it’s awesome. But anyway, you can always tell. If there’s folks who don’t show up in the real world, it’s because they’re super big. So, like, an angel shows up, and it’s just sort of a whispered presence that one person is aware of, that’s because he’s just too big to show up here, it’s a giant sandbox, and he’s got to be very very careful to not squash the sandbox. So, he just shows up for that one bit.

If this is true then it could mean the Mothers can't be killed, as long as they are in the NeverNever. 

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I think the Merlin knew that letting Harry slip his leash would make him a more powerful force for good. The White Council can't do anything overt if Harry starts flouting the laws of magic. They'd run afoul of Mab, both as head of the Winter Court and as the enforcer behind the Winter Accords. Harry is already part of Winter and soon will be under the aegis of the White Court's protection. Kicking Harry out and threatening him with the Doom of Damocles is political posturing. The Black Council thinks they can use it to get Ebenezer killed, that's it. They have to recognize that when it comes to Harry, they're toothless.

It's going to suck for them when Ebenezer, as a last act of defiance, wills Harry to be the next Blackstaff.

I think the Council was pushed into this.  Most don't want Dresden there, but I think pressure was applied.  Either from Mab, or maybe the Black Council.

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DF Spoilers / Re: Anyone catch "It" in Battle Ground?
« on: October 12, 2021, 06:54:09 PM »
Blampires aren't people. They are demons who take over the body of a dead person. Wild Bill and Yoshi are dead. They've gone through that single person door to the other side. A Blampire is inhabiting their shell, the ultimate desecration of their memory.

Something of the person remains.  For example one twin referred to the other as "my sister".  So the soul has gone on, but something of them remains. 

Also we don't know what they are.  White Court, and Red Court are connected to demons but my opinion is that the Black Court are different.  I think they are connected to the Outside.  It may be the case that when they are turned, they are twisted by the Outside into what they are.  Their shade is controlling a corpse (and a shade does have a persons personality), and empowered by Outside.

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DF Spoilers / Re: After the BAT?
« on: October 12, 2021, 02:43:57 AM »
While I love that Book, my guess is that something happens in the BAT that turns our world into the world of the Cinder Spires.

I think something horrible will happen, world is in chaos, and somehow Dresden (time travel?) undoes it.

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DF Spoilers / Re: True Teleportation
« on: October 12, 2021, 02:22:04 AM »
Drakul seemed to be simply faster than Harry or the others could perceive.  Aristedes was fast, but not so fast you couldn't see him, but instead faster than you could really react to (as a normal human).

If Drakul was simply faster, how was River Shoulders able to shut down his ability to appear in different places?  If Drakul could actually move faster that one could see, why didn't he simply beat them all down more quickly than they could react? 

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DF Spoilers / Re: Mother Winter Blackstaff Back
« on: October 12, 2021, 02:18:23 AM »
An either it took out the 3rd sister of fate

I don't think there was three.  I think Jim put his own spin.  There are 3 Fates.  Mother, Queen, Lady.  3 Fates for Winter, 3 Fates for Summer.  If there wasa 3rd Mother, what would she represent?  Not a season as the other 2 do.  A 3rd Mother would be out of place from the readers perspective.  There is a precise balance between Winter and Summer, and a 3rd Mother wouldn't make sense.


EDIT:  Unless before they took up Winter, and Summer, there were 3 Mothers, and the 3rd Mother leads the Fomor who Jim did say were defeated by the Sidhe.

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DF Spoilers / Re: Anyone catch "It" in Battle Ground?
« on: October 12, 2021, 02:13:34 AM »
Maybe starborns aren't "its"?   Harry gets a little more respect because he is one.. Apparently his body essence is too rich for an ordinary Black Court vamp.

Calling someone an "It" is because they are either alien to you, or below you (they aren't a person).  I don't think it's too rich for a Vamp.  I think it's an energy source that Drakul likes to feed on.

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DF Spoilers / Re: Rebuilding (Little) Chicago.
« on: October 12, 2021, 02:10:51 AM »
I'm rereading Small Favor. Luccio pulls out a map of ley lines that was given to her from  Listens to Wind. North and South Manitou Island(s) are listed as a source of dark power, but two hundred miles north of Chicago.

I wonder if all these Ley Lines create nexus points that can be exploited by Harry, as the Warden. I'm just thinking that with all the baddies currently jailed on DR, you'd think there would be a hack for getting them there. If anyone can, Harry will figure it out.

Anyway--Maybe BLC can be working into the Ley Line maps and then connected to the Castle and the tower on DR. Or something like that.

Gate Keeper warned him to NOT do that.

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