As the guy who helped Serak develop his theory on the drive back from the DC signing, I can unequivicably confirm that, at the creation of the thread, there was no WoJ as to wether Fitz was cursed or not.  That statement was placed in the OP as a clue for the rest of the forumites as to who we thought his parents were.

Insofar as Fitz' red hair and pug nose, we reread Fool Moon looking for physical descriptions of McFinn and discovered that his human discription had been painted with very broad strokes, invoking everyone's personal image of a rugged mountain man without actually going into much detail.  The red hair and pug nose are treated as clues because both have become steriotypes of Irish decent, not because they match McFinn's description.

Another avenue that may or may not have been fully explored in the past 15 pages; who exactly did Saint Patrick curse?  Irish legend mentions a mage/king by the name of Finn McCool (or Finn son of Cool.)  Finn McCool was known for having preternatural wisdom when he accidentially tased the Salmon of Knowledge as an apprentice wizard and was said to have dealings with the Tuatha de Dannan.  When expanding through Europe, the Catholic church was known to attempt to discredit pagan leaders to bolster the faith of their local converts.  I find it plausible in the DV that either Finn or one of his decendants would be targeted by the church as a living reminder of benevolent (or at least powerful) forces outside of the christian pantheon.  In a move to secure the catholic faith in Ireland, St. Patrick cursed the Island's previous supernatural defender to become a ravening beast, forcing the people to turn to the church for protection.

Please keep in mind that I am in no way trying to condemn or condone  any historical actions of the catholic church.  The church of 1200 is different in many ways from the church of 2011, and I am talking about a fictional universe.

EMacB has a tiein theory that is pretty interesting.  Waiting impatiently for him to post it.

Do you mean my theory on Fitz's predetermined death?  I believe that Harry (or a suitable replacement) will be forced to either kill Fitz or lift his curse to kick off the BAT.  Apocalypse = End of Days.  Either Fitz's death with no heirs or the lifting of the curse would fulfill St. Patrick's stipulation that that the curse continue until the 'End of Days'.


...Or did you mean the other theory?

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He makes about as much sense as a screen door on a battleship submarine.

Jenny Sells read the Arcane and knew about Harry. not farfetched to see Monica knowing her husband is in to the mystical reading through the Arcane and seeing articles about Harry also. she than builds enough courage to seek help from him.

Victor used more than lust he used anger also. he found out emotions could aid in the charging of spells. and it was hatred that was a main factor behind the RC curse as Harry pointed out. and the Beckitts had plenty of hatred to go around.

i don't see how a WCV got one of RCV's greatest weapons. the bloodline curse. Arriana wouldn't do that unless it was because she was sharing w/ a BCouncil ally.

Victor wasn't aimed at Harry he was aimed at Marcone. Marcone was stopping the RC from expanding into the Chicago underworld. and they were in a drug war.

when Harry starts to go after Victor the WCouncil sends in Morgan. not to find a warlock but specifically was sent after Harry. and we all know Peabody was messing w/ the Council for a long time.

as of SF Papa Raith had no idea about Harry being Mag LeFae's son. neither did Lara. and Thomas can barely use a tracking spell. also Papa Raith cannot feed to replenish his own energies. so why would he waste energy showing Victor how to use magic?  my bet on who taught Victor is Cowl.

Harry would never even have been brought in if Monica's sister didn't threaten to go to the police and Marcone, thus forcing Victor's hand. so he killed her and Tommy Tom.

Good catch on the Arcane, I seem to have missed that.

Of course Victor used more than just lust, my point was that he personally ended up focused on the lust as his goto emotion, and a WC teacher would have encouraged that decision.

The WC loved to collect secrets and use them to throw their enemies off balance.  Papa Raith could have been holding on to that spell for millenia for all we know, until just the right patsy appeared.

Marcone was a civilizing influence on Chicago.  He made it a point of honor that noone could perform random violence in his city without his approval.  This makes him dangerous to any creature that counts on its victims being dismissed as 'just another victim of gang violence.'  In short, Marcone was bad for WC business.

Morgan isn't a factor in my theory, but ok.

Papa Raith wouldn't need to use his own magic to teach Victor, he just needs to show him the very basics of magic and leave some select spell books out to be read.  Harry himself notes that Victor has several very powerful spells, but no other real training to speak of.

But Jenny only stood up to Victor because Monica wanted to escape and protect her children.



Also, good catch to everyone who remembered that Papa Raith wasn't aware the Harry was Maggie's son yet, I had lost track of that detail.

Hey, I made a similar thread not long ago!

Sorry about that.  I did a basic word search to see if I could roll this into an existing thread, but I must have used the wrong tearms.

After re-reading SF in preperation for Ghost Story my question is this:

Who told Monica Sells that she should go to Harry Dresden? 

On page 243 of SF, when Harry soulgazes Monica Sells, he says and I quote

"There hadn't been time to see all her reasons, all her logic.  I still didn't know why she had drawn me into this entire business-"

  Monica knows that magic is real, but why would she go looking in the yellow pages for a wizard to challenge her husband?  Harry specifically states that his advertisement is located in the yellow pages under wizard, and that he is the only entry, so she didn't find him while looking for a PI to catch her husband red handed. 

I think that the quote from SF is a cluebat.  Someone (or something) is preparing Harry for the trials ahead.  Someone has invested several years into training Victor Sells (my guess is 4-6 years, because Monica explicitly states that he got his magic when their son was 4, and Harry guesstimated the children to be 10-13 and about 2 years younger,) but in all that time he/she neglected to inform Victor that there was a White Council that would frown on his actions if they became public.  This tells me that Victor's teacher wanted him to get caught, and may even have been the one to plant the idea of going to Dresden in Monica's head.

Another possible cluebat in this vein are Victor's job and his friends.  When Monica goes to Harry the first time he asks where her husband worked before he was laid off and if he had any friends or family.  She said he worked for SilverCo (a trading company), he was friends with his boss, and he was estranged from his family.  Serack pointed out to me that the porn studio owned by the White Court had silver in its name and that might be another clue.  Also, Victor settled on lust as his emotional focus for his spells.  If his teacher was White Court, he or she would be biased towards teaching Victor to harness lust over the rest of his emootions.

In Changes,
Putting this together, we have Victor Sells, a potental mage who works for a possible White Court shell company and was taught .  I think that Victor was actually a White Court cats paw meant to draw Harry into play on a greater game,   I suspect that it will eventually be revealed that Victor's teacher was either Lara or Thomas Raith, and I am personally leaning more towards Lara.


Well, that's my theory.  Is it crazy like a fox Duck or just plain crazy?