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Little side chatter about where the sidhe came from, considering putting it with a few other things to try to have a proposed 'history' of the guard and gates, in so much as we know vs what we can guess at with help. But not sure how to organize...
Druids.... They couldn't effect fate(read:freedom of will) but they could conjure the elements and all kinds of fun magical stuff. Anyway
Quote from: the world almanac, book of the strange
At a time of the Roman conquests of Gaul and Britain the Druids were flourishing as the only unifying institution of the Celts... The Druids were largely suppressed, except in Ireland, which the Romans never conquered
 The Druidic practice of human sacrifice may also have encouraged the Romans to suppress the cult... The word Druid is probably related to the Celtic word for oak tree-daur. The oak was in fact sacred to the Druids, as was the mistletoe... Druidic tradition was in par preserved in irish epic for some centuries after its christianization of Ireland and faint echoes in Welsh folklore.
ok so, the Romans moved on them and suppressed the 'magic folk' but started their own studies into magic at the same time, thereby potentially changing the main traditions of magic used by most practitioners thereafter. But ireland, where Jim has drawn on more directly for Mehb and what not, also the sidhe, literally, people of the mounds originate thereafter in Irish legend. I might reedit some of this later, I don't know right now, cutting it very short here though.

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DF Spoilers / Re: Cowl's Identity [FPOTM2 11.2016]
« on: January 09, 2017, 04:18:57 AM »
I voted "Other" for one reason.  I do think it's Harry.  Not an AU or TT version, but the "darker self" that he had a few run-ins with inside his unconscious mind.  I bet that's who, because, why not?  Be a shame to invent such a wonderfully dark persona and not really do much with it, except for internal spoilers.
fairly sure MM harry will look like Harry's ID, and his ID will look like harry because that's the side he supresses in his jungian shadow/subconscious.

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From what I can gather from a wikipedia level research is that Lancelot and the adultery was added in the Le Chevalier de la Charrette which was published exactly 111 years after the battle of Hastings.  Oddly round number, that...
faeires believe In the infinity of the number pi  :) 111 is 3 times 37?

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How can it be partly Oberon's fault if they haven't spoken since Hastings? Shakespeare is centuries after that. I was wondering about that point too--specifically---they had a love triangle when neither of them were communicating with each other at all!

The former gatekeeper was the father of the author of Dante's Divine Comedy--Alighiero di Bellincione, as revealed in the most recent RPG book.
that would imply his indirect knowledge led him to believe the gates lead through to the heart of hell?

Anywho, Hastings... This iirc my mrs Duck... Is also Around the time the Arthurian legend added on the love triangle aspect and the three sisters (sometimes four...) Morgana, morguise and Elaine... Some of which would make great candidates for the current queens... Height of Norse mythos, they could smacked down their war/weather deity?

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Him http://www.jimbutcheronline.com/bb/index.php?action=profile;u=106207
And http://www.jimbutcheronline.com/bb/index.php?action=profile;u=106224
The names are rehashings of the same name, the one keeps trying to put rape in his name with only slight variations of letters to hide the new accounts.

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DF Spoilers / Re: Cowl's Identity [FPOTM2 11.2016]
« on: November 20, 2016, 04:56:56 AM »
He seems to use straight up English in high emotional moments. Burning down the Rampires at Bianca Ball as mentioned and while killing Arianna in Changes he didn't said forzare but "“No one touches my little girl.” to unleash his final spell. Although I have to admit that that was a missed opportunity by Butcher, he should have made Harry kill her by saying "Moo".

For me "dorosh" is a pro-Petrovich argument because it is a modern Russian surname. Classically trained Wizards pick up some very obscure or dead language, (Morgan - classic Greek, DuMorne - ancient Egyptian, Molly - Japanese) and from what we gather they use the proper language. The only occasion where a Wizard bastardized a language is Dresden who uses pseudo-Latin because he can't use normal proper Latin since he uses it in White Council communication.

So a Wizard who uses a bastardized version of a language is exposed to the "proper" form of the language regularly, or uses it. Which means that Cowl knows/uses proper Russian since for his spells he has to bastardize it, hence why for me it a hint that he is Petrovich who had his stronghold Archangel in Russia.
i read this as being related to the Japanese doroshi, to throw, overturn. Which considering the actual action of the spell on Harry, makes perfect sense. It didn't kill him, because it was never the intention of the spell, it did toss him on his ass though.

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DF Spoilers / Re: Cowl's Identity [FPOTM2 11.2016]
« on: November 18, 2016, 05:15:34 AM »
I thought using a bastardize version of another language for magic keeps the user sane.But in GP, Harry says burn or something similar during his inferno spell at the party.
im not entirely sure that was actually part of the spell or just his own punctuation for the situation, but he does mention the magic flying wild in his body and mind too so idk...

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DF Spoilers / Re: Cowl's Identity [FPOTM2 11.2016]
« on: November 17, 2016, 06:34:40 PM »
So, no more dangerous than having a spell named "Smith" and being located in a country where there are plenty of Smiths.
idk, I'd argue it's the actual thought form connected to the language. Wizardry grows in the mind similarly to actual language, where in eventual it stops becoming a conscious effort to understand the word or apply your own thought form. Instead your mind reproduces the idea in a chunk of memory with the associated effects with it. (It happens as wizards get better at their own spells too) Perhaps a 'smith' spell would get confabulated with a metalworking smith or a smith most well known them.

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DF Spoilers / Re: Cowl's Identity [FPOTM2 11.2016]
« on: November 17, 2016, 07:58:49 AM »
I think Cowl=DuMorne=Kemmler.  I think Kemmler body snatched DuMorne to escape the wardens then brought himself back when Harry merc'd him and is now parading around as Cowl.
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personally, I'm also thinking at that point in time kemmler bit off more than he could chew faking his own death like MM Harry, assuming he learned the trick from Kemmlers evil bob. So 'kemmler' could also be alternate reality kemmler stuck here.... Is it kemmler? It looks spelled wrong but idk off top of my head...

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DF Spoilers / Re: Cowl's Identity [FPOTM2 11.2016]
« on: November 17, 2016, 05:20:36 AM »
Not being contentious... just curious.

The "Merlin lives backwards" thing, as far as I remember, was the product/invention of T.H. White's Once and Future King and was later coopted by the Disney Corp. when they turned it into an animated film.Wikipedia -- https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Sword_in_the_Stone_(film)

I don't recall the "backwards" part actually being in the Disney film, nor do I recall the concept being embraced by Mary Stewart in her series which started with The Cristal Cave.  The Arthurian legend has been a particular interest of mine for some time and I've read lots of stories (seen a lot of movies, too) of various levels of fact and fiction related to it but don't recall anything but White's story where Merlin is living in reverse time. 

Do you have any references I can look at?  I'd love to see what they have to say.  tyvm
???  :o  ;D you actually asked me this last time I posted something on this, in days long past when I was simply wizard Nelson... T.A. Barron is specifically the Merlin story I remember, his older self tells his younger self in the 4th book of the young Merlin stories, the mirror of Merlin "Things will get more interesting when you learn to live backwards through time as well." Or something to that effect. It's also part of Maerlyn's story in the dark tower, Stephen King. That work up has a few thread that can be pulled at related to the DF, nexus points in time, the main guy drawing three 'people' from beyond his current reality(reminds me of Harry and the three walkers coming in for him), his connection to death, but not for himself. Other things I'll hold to the chest.... It's one of the stories I wonder at Jim making only coincidental connections to actually, not Intentional ones but by leu of expounding a book of similar metaphysical qualities. Like mortal combat, one guy uses ice, the other fire, two sides of a war between realities, ect. Intentional? Or just another piece of the all inclusive mythos scheme?
*i went lookingfor the source, to satisfy mine own curiosity. A question asked about T.H White's Merlin, How does Merlin experience time/where sourced from?
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This view of Merlin is canonical with the original written translation of the Arthurian cycle, "Le Morte d'Arthur" In it, Merlin is said to "remember what is in our future", and to "have no knowledge of what is in our past". He physically does not age, and this is never explained, only mentioned. There is never any reference to his perception of speech and motion being backwards as well. All in all, there is no reason to think that T. H. White’s Merlyn is any different from canonical Arthurian myth. Merlin living backwards is mentioned in "Excalibur", "Camelot", and "A Connecticut Yankee in King Arthur's Court" and a number of other stories.

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DF Spoilers / Re: Cowl's Identity [FPOTM2 11.2016]
« on: November 15, 2016, 09:52:27 PM »
I had to change it to other,
How's about, an alteration version of the original Merlin inside the same timeline.
Classically, Merlin exists backward through time in all timelines, but with the DR thing, 5 different times at the same time, I think 5 variation ended up in every timeline and grew off from there.

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DF Spoilers / Re: Cowl's Identity
« on: November 15, 2016, 01:39:57 AM »
Sorry, I'm looking for the current consensus and trending on the question.  If folks could vote numerous times, it'd be less definitive. 

As for multiple people being the same, if you're thinking that there's something like Kemmler became DuMorne or something, then vote for the soul/consciousness you believe is in control. 

If that's not what you mean, then I'd be interested in hearing about it.  I don't know of any theories where any of the above are the same, given that they're all public personas.
well, the above is my first choice actually, but given my tendancy to explore vague possibilities and recurring themes... I have these crazy idea's that dumorne was another alternate Harry or kemmler was, became dumorne. Something about the way he looked vs say, Odin. (I compare it well with clash of the Titans, Hades looked like a darker Zeus) he looks like a darker Odin who never lost the eye/gained knowledge. Which means he's just another version of the Merlin archatype... Or the possibility Rashid is the original Merlin/ dark variation of Odin... few other variations... Gah, I'll just go with Kemmler *i can't decide lol*

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DF Spoilers / Re: Cowl's Identity
« on: November 15, 2016, 01:06:08 AM »
I refuse to vote on the grounds I Can't pick more than one, because I can neither narrow it to just one... And or, I believe multiple people on the list to be the same anyway...

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Site Suggestions & Support / Re: Forum Code advice and other Forum FAQ
« on: November 08, 2016, 10:16:54 PM »
As noqueixis stated, when you start a new topic, the browser window you start it in will hang up, but the post new topic will go up on the boards, which is a bug of the SMF code used by the forums.

However, if your new topic has a link in it, it /will/ require a mod to approve it.  This helps prevent exposing our forum members to bots with malicious links.

I've posted a work-around for this issue, but I don't keep it in this topic to add a layer of insulation between it and the botters.  I'll dig it up and PM you with it.
mmm, I posted something in a new thread, no links, but it didn't show up the first time I went back to that section, it appeared like five minutes later. Just wondering cause I'd never seen that happen.

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Site Suggestions & Support / Re: Forum Code advice and other Forum FAQ
« on: November 07, 2016, 09:05:23 PM »
Did they change the forum procedure to need a mod to sing off on all new threads before they appear to the public or am I just a 'suspicious profile'?

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