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DF Spoilers / Re: True Love's Protection
« on: Yesterday at 08:12:06 PM »
In any case, if suddenly self-doubt/self-loathing (Harry) or a measure of resentment toward the other partner (Susan), can kill the True Love protection, it means that Jim is watering down the concept of True Love™ right? Suddenly, he has other ideas in mind (Lara) and the concept has stopped being useful so we're eroding its meaning now. Because it went from this super rare, super important experience shared between two people, that was so spirtual and physically important that it left a literal mark on the participants, and now it can be destroyed with pretty much anything. It's a disappointment, to me, and makes me trust Jim a lot less.

I hope there's some hidden reason here that's yet to be revealed, tbh.

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DF Spoilers / Re: You'd think they'd change that on day 1 ...
« on: January 29, 2026, 09:34:34 PM »
Wait, where did you see that?  I might throw my hat into that particular ring...

There was a form.

About 2 months ago, I actually got an email inviting me to apply to be a beta.  The email said betas were being sought for MM.  I don't know why I got the invite; maybe because I signed up for Butcher's newsletter.

In any event, I completed and submitted the form quickly and haven't heard anything since except the sound of crickets.

Yep. It came to those who are subscribed to his newsletter. I applied as well, haven't heard anything yet either. I don't know what the criteria of selection would be, tbh.

I imagine the NDA would come after you pass whatever bar they set up.

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DF Spoilers / Re: True Love's Protection
« on: January 29, 2026, 09:30:38 PM »
There are a lot of people here who keep saying it's a time travel book. I don't know why.

Alternate universe, Evil Harry brings Harries over to take the fall for him
 (I've always thought he leaves their bodies behind). The difference is caused by a choice "near the end of Grave Peril." The Red Court won the war.

Yeah, I'm not sure why exactly but Mirror Mirror always gets confused with the Time Travel book, which now we know is going to be, most likely, book 22.

Yeah, but... That's why there has been problems with the concept from the start!  How do you define true love?  Harry may feel self loathing at the moment, he is grieving, he feels guilt about all the people that died under his banner that allowed him to fight.  He feels guilty because he wasn't able to keep Murphy physically out of the fight, though it was Mab's banner that made it possible, and ultimately Murphy's choice.. Having said that, what does that have to do with true love? Harry still believes he truly loved Murphy, and whether he thinks he deserves it or not, how does that change Murphy's supposed true love for him?  I say it doesn't, true love isn't a logical emotion, often it defies logic!

So no, I don't think Harry's current feelings of guilt and self-loathing over what has recently happened to him and his actions have anything to do with him not being protected.

I would agree up until this point.

I do belive what Harry and Murphy had was True Love™, I mean, to me if what Susan and Harry had was by canon standards was, Harry and Murphy better had it too, it was, IMO, a much more believable love story.

The way I see, there are two answers for why we're seeing the seed of doubt in Twelve Months:
1. There's something nefarious going on, something that Mab is doing. I mean, I wouldn't be surprised at this point. Harry's feeling of self-loathing are not enough.
2. Jim messed up. He wants to shoehorn in the relationship with Lara and he realized he made a mistake by announcing that Harry and Murphy had True Love™ in Peace Talks (he could have just not put it there and it would have been one of those things that make Harry and Murphy's story more tragic. I honestly don't think he cared that much about what "shippers" had to say about that or we wouldn't be here in the first place).

Personally, I want to believe is the first one, I know it's probably the second one, which makes me lose a lot of respect for him. This is not a minor detail in the series, IMO.

Because we now know that Harry and Lash 'conceived' Bonea in a moment of love and connection that gave rise to new life. Harry has love for Susan, but the being he went home and wept for that night was Lash. And she let herself be destroyed for the love of him, saving him from Lasciel's damnation. That interaction was what shielded Harry from the Hunger that night.

It's not possible. 1. Jim has stated that there is both a physical component and a spiritual component to the True Love™ protection settling in place, and it is born out of mutual love.

2. Harry was never in love with Las or "loved" her as a woman/partner. They were not in a romantic relationship. As far as what's on the page, he cared for her, they were friends.
I've seen some takes that Bonea was created by Harry having a sort of secret relationship with Lash in his head but his own AlternaHarry (ID Harry) tells him in Skin Game that he's been a fool for not taking her up on her "offers" of sexual intimacy. Bonea was born of an act of love, yes, sacrifice, Lash sacrifice out of love for Harry, whether romantic or not, but it was pretty much unilateral. They didn't act together.

And WoJ has stated that the "True Love" protection can only arise between two equals, not from an unequal relation (such as parent/child, etc); any form of dependence prevents it.

This. It is a matter of two consenting adults giving to one another in equal measure.

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DF Spoilers / Re: True Love's Protection
« on: January 29, 2026, 12:50:07 PM »
I've been wondering if all of his self loathing makes a difference here. He doesn't think he deserves anything good, let alone love. Maybe that makes a difference.

That's what Mab's explanation was about.

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DF Spoilers / Re: You'd think they'd change that on day 1 ...
« on: January 27, 2026, 12:45:03 PM »
I used to be here under a different name, and yeah, you're right, this place would have been crazy a week after the release of a new book before.

I'm not sure what happened exactly, but I think the time between Skin Game and Peace Talks made the story lose a lot of readers, and the wait for Twelve Months didn't help. Plus, well, I personally know a dozen people who left the series because of what happened to Murphy in Battle Ground, so I imagine you can translate that into a bigger number in the community.

The new fans that joined the series in the period since Battle Ground are mostly in Reddit, and that community (IMO) has a whole different vibe (as do most of the new fans). And, since JB was looking for new beta readers, I imagine a lot of the "old guard" are unable to help these days, which is a shame, I thought there were things in the book that didn't exactly fit and they would have caught maybe.

The reality is that it's been 10 years since the series had any real momentum, and a lot changes in that kind of time. Heck, I think even Jim's goal with the story is changing.

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DF Spoilers / Re: True Love's Protection
« on: January 27, 2026, 12:25:08 AM »
Jim said Harry didn't know about Maggie. That suggests that knowing about Maggie would change his emotional stance enough to break the protection.

Now that is an interesting point. Harry definitely feels way different about Susan after he learns about Maggie, so I think you might be onto something. And indeed, in that case Mab's explanation could, potentially (though I'm still not 100% on board) maybe work.

I thought it was so Harry though, when he asked Mab if she was saying that death defeats love, because it's obviously a Princess Bride reference. I think, of all the excuses, like Harry here, I don't want to believe that death changes the protection, though. That's so depressing. I'd say Harry's self-loathing, his (IMO) self-centerness in his grief, his guilt, and how belief tends to work in the Dresden universe would be slightly more convincing a reason for why the True Love™ protection goes away. Though still a cheap excuse. If that were the case though, if Harry starts to feel better about it, if he embraces Murphy's memory, would the protection return? Probably not.

I will say this, too, that I found a bit hard to digest in this book: I don't have a problem with Harry grieving, I'll start with that, it was necessary, it is raw and it is painful. I wished we had seen a little less of "Karrin is dead and oh how much this hurts me" and more "Karrin is dead and that's unfair because Karrin was x, y and z" I mean, he tells us more times how wonderful Michael is in any of the books than he thinks about Murphy in this one, when it'd be the appropriate book to do it. There's a lot of things that you feel when you lose someone, yes, guilt, anger, denial, but also longing, and the memories of the best about them replay in your head making you miss them more, want them more. I felt there wasn't enough longing or enough memories. And I still can't believe we didn't learn when her birthday was in a full year of story.

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DF Spoilers / Re: Twelve month is little disappointment (spoilers)
« on: January 26, 2026, 10:59:43 PM »
Besides her deciding to kill him in Blood Rites.
I think I recall Jim saying Raith didn't have much left going on.

Exactly.

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DF Spoilers / Re: True Love's Protection
« on: January 26, 2026, 10:11:20 PM »
Well, my experience is different. I never believed Harry loved Murphy, at least not True Love, so I was surprised when he actually burnt Lara. I always thought their love was the love of a dear friend or sibling. More than many romantic loves, granted, but not True Love.

Hm, I'm shook. I would understand to some level the "they were better friends than lovers" that some readers feel about them, regardless of my shipping heart, but I don't think they ever read as siblings or just friends. Interesting.

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DF Spoilers / Re: True Love's Protection
« on: January 26, 2026, 06:57:58 PM »
Things would have been easier if Harry had not burnt Lara in PT/BG. Not True Love. But since it happened, the easiest way to deal with it was not to have the long kiss scene in TM. Have Lara began feeding and then burn. She still would have tasted Harry and liked it and the rest of the book would be more or less the same, only the sexy scene with all its effect in Harry's mind would be shorter.

Yes, that would have worked.

Honestly, I think many of us would have been so disappointed if Harry had not burned Lara in Peace Talks, I mean, it was him and Murphy, hard to believe they wouldn't have True Love™ all things considered. And in a book that is mostly about Harry mourning the woman he loved as Twelve Months was, it is hard to have that love being so questioned now by things that could have been fixed in a different way, because Lara being "sated" doesn't really work and Mab's explanation of Harry's self-loathing doesn't either. It's like we keep adding insult to the injury that was Murphy's death, because we (Jim) is rushing this situationship with Lara. I dunno, I've heard people saying that's the point, that it is on purpose, perhaps I'd believe that if Harry wasn't so lustful toward her or worse, was trying so hard to justify trusting her.

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DF Spoilers / Re: True Love's Protection
« on: January 26, 2026, 04:05:37 PM »
Yeah, again, to me, trying to push the narrative toward a relationship between Harry and Lara, either if it turns romantic or if it's just about Harry getting "a taste of sexy", is doing a number of things to the overall story that Jim is not handling well, or at least, is not coming through to some of us, this matter feels very retconny. I find it disingenuous >:(

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DF Spoilers / Re: True Love's Protection
« on: January 26, 2026, 02:40:39 PM »
Let me just point out this interview (recent) where Jim talks about the love protection.

Watch from about min 38:40 it's a couple of minutes where he talks about this.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Xg5GxQb_rXo

Let me know your thoughts if you figure out something from it related to this, what's your interpretation.

Though, I should say, I find JB to be somewhat inconsistent lately.

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DF Spoilers / Re: Twelve month is little disappointment (spoilers)
« on: January 26, 2026, 02:23:46 PM »
Those questions for Vadderung will come later, his confrontation with Mab over the spell that enabled Murphy to overcome her physical injuries to be present and die as a result was realistic.

I hope that is true, that we see those questions to Vadderung.
I felt like the confrontation with Mab was a good moment, and that felt more like the true Harry to me.

I thought your forum name was because you were a fan of Lara, and I was so confused about your posts  :)

LOL, nope, just my name.

I always thought Harry would not be with Lara because she feed of people, so yes, some retconned seemed to have been happened, so now she tries not to kill. 

I always admired that Harry seemed to know the dangers of Lara, that he was aware and tried to not be fooled, lately, it feels like it's all about getting Harry to a hotter younger model. I don't know if that's going to be the case, honestly Twelve Months probably left me as confused about this as Harry regarding the relationship with Lara. But I think it's too titilating to miss and JB would want to go there. Plus, the fans really like it, so *shrug*

So I am disappointed by the retcnonning here. Unless the idea is to take Harry to a darker path with this.

I'm reading the series out of spite at this moment, and still participating in forums for the same reason, if I have to be the one/last person still remembering Karrin and reminding Jim that she deserved better, I will be. LOL I will admit Harry is not my favorite character in the books, obviously.

I hope JB proves me wrong in all my bad feelings about where the series is going, I do. I've been with this series for 20 years, I'll see it through, lol. Clearly, I am a masochist.

I also hope you are wrong about Thomas because I want them together, being loving with each other. Thomas had time to think. To reflect about what his own actions did, how Harry lost his woman for ever, not for a few years like Justine.

I think there's a setup for a riff between Harry and Thomas, it's been there since Turn Coat. But I think it will end up ultimately with them reconciling, thought it'd be very rough for a while.

I'm still on team Eb though. But I did like that Harry followed Murphy's advice to try to at least talk to him. It turned out even better than that, which frankly surprised me.

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DF Spoilers / Re: Twelve month is little disappointment (spoilers)
« on: January 26, 2026, 08:07:30 AM »
You don't want Harry and Thomas having a good relationship?  :'( I love them together, it is one of my favourite things in the series.
I honestly see nothing eye rolling about Lara being Thomas "mother". It is nothing that we did not know.

Of course, everyone likes different things. That is fine or life would be much more boring.

Yes, we knew she had raised him, but that's not the same as having those motherly feelings that she describes in twelve months, those that are hard to believe were always there when she was willing to kill him before. I think the push to "humanize" her is just too much. And this is a me issue, I used to not care about Lara, I mean she was cool, whatever, but ever since Peace Talk / Battle Ground when it felt like Murphy was pushed aside to further a Harry / Lara romance, I just despise her portrayal, and I don't think it's entirely unmerited, she's presented as a capable leader in all the previous books and since PT/BG she's a fumbling, blushing damsel. I will always say that we could have grown the romance with Lara in a way that didn't feel like we were doing it over Murphy's cooling corpse. I despise this development in the series. (yes I'm aware of the irony that we share a name, lol). But again, it's just a me issue since most of the fandom seem to be cool with all this.

Regarding Thomas, I genuinely like his relationship with Harry and I wish it was all puppies and roses between them, but I just think that at some point Ebenezer is going to be proven right, and unfortunately it will be by Thomas' hand, I think it's the perfect way to torture Harry, to have Thomas betraying in some way. I think Twelve Months might be setting us up for that. And if I were in Thomas shoes, I would also be angry at Harry, very angry. It's not necessarily rational, but it's very understandable IMO.

Furthermore, Thomas is just a baby, in vampire years, with time, he would probably develop into what the rest of his kind are or do. He might be different due to Harry's presence in his life, but without him? I have to say that I don't buy that he doesn't turn like the rest of them. Plus, I always wanted to see Thomas as the King of his Court, because it gets tiresome that he keeps getting kidnapped and neutered when we've known since Backup that his Hunger is actually really more powerful than many. Give the man some agency. I dunno.

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DF Spoilers / Re: Twelve month is little disappointment (spoilers)
« on: January 26, 2026, 12:43:00 AM »
To be frank, I had no problems with how things went with Ramirez, or with Eb, for that matter.
I would agree on points 2 and 3. Everything about Lara bothered me, for more that one reason.

I honestly wanted to like this book, I mean, I went into it thinking that it'd be touching, but there were too many things that made little sense to me.

I thought part of Harry's grief would be confronting Vadderung about Murphy's situation, try to negotiate, you know, because he is very stubborn and adamant when he cares about something, and yet, he gets Vadderung on the phone even, and not even a "is she really okay?" I dunno.

I liked the twist about Harry "enslaving" Lara, so to speak, I think that makes a relationship harder for now, and I really don't want to see them getting together as a couple yet (yeah, I know it's coming, ugh).

I liked how things got resolved with Thomas, and I wished we had explored that even further, but I supposed that is for future books, I don't think the relationship between Thomas and Harry is good, and I hope it's not (yeah, I'm evil like that).

Lara seemed neutered and like Butcher is trying so hard to make her fit into Murphy's shoes now. The whole Lara is Thomas mother, because we have to show that she cares, is eyerolling. I really wish that the whole potential for the Harry/Lara romance wasn't built on Murphy's demise, it feels like a diservice to the three characters (Harry, Murphy and Lara).

I wished the rest of the cast had been allowed more depth, and not just Michael.

Bear is the other half of the Murphy replacement, a very predictable addition.

The other scenes were okay, I guess.

I don't really care about Fitz.

I'm glad Maggie shows a bit more personality now, at least.

And the last fight was just ridiculous, IMO, like a very bad 90s cartoon, I think what JB was trying to do was a sort of "friendship is magic" vibe, where all of Harry's friends just show up to support him, but honestly, it didn't work for me, felt cheesy not in a good way.

I am glad that Mab seemed evil, I think JB has been writing her too much in a way that people emphatize with her.

I did like that Harry was genuinely broken over Murphy, I wouldn't have believed anything else, but I was disappointed in his... how to say it, his comformity with it. And I don't know if I can explain this properly, but it felt to me, like he accepted her death very easily, what he had problems with was her absence and his guilt over not doing more in the past. But having Vadderung within reach, I would have imagine the Harry we knew would have tried to ask about her, to learn more about how exactly the einherjar worked, or if there was something that he could do, or even to ask if he could get a message delivered to her or something.

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DF Spoilers / Re: Maggie's Name
« on: January 24, 2026, 07:30:17 AM »
Didn't the gatekeeper take care of all of his legal stuff when he came back from the dead? I always assumed that included Maggie's status as well, for some reason.

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