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DF Spoilers / Re: Turncoat
« on: May 27, 2025, 02:15:30 AM »
Carlos did keep secret tabs on Harry.  Remember the tracker dot he secretly put on Harry at the beginning of Peace Talks?  No, Carlos was willing to screw over his friend long before that final scene between them at the end of Battle Ground.

But that's not out of character.  Harry, as Carlos pointed out, hasn't been acting like a friend, for a long time.  From a Council POV, Harry looks suspect, and he seems uninterested in alleviating the suspicions.  I'm not sure Carlos still believed Harry was his friend, whether or not Carlos thought of himself as Harry's.

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DF Spoilers / Re: Thomas
« on: May 27, 2025, 02:07:21 AM »
To answer the question of if Thomas can be separated from the Hunger Demon we have to understand what the Demon is. To my knowledge the author has never full stated what it is or how it develops (other than it lies dormant until the first sexual encounter). Is it some form of spirit? Is it part of the mind? Is it some part of Thomas' actual physical form? I think its nature would determine if/how it can be removed and how much of Thomas is left over when it is gone.
I do not think the Sword of Faith would work. Its power on mortals is diminished. In Peace Talks they discuss the sword and how it would only work on true evil and Michael/Harry state that you would have to be absolute to qualify as evil and thus able to be impacted by the sword.

More to the point, would Uriel be allowed to cure Thomas?

I have no doubt Uriel has the power to separate Thomas and his parasite.  I'm pretty sure Uriel is the most powerful entity Harry has ever encountered, with the possible exception of Ferro or both Mothers together, and I would bet against Ferro and the Mothers in that comparison.

But Uriel is bound by a whole bunch of rules about what he is and isn't allowed to do.

Also, I'm not sure if Uriel could separate the parasite and Thomas without turning Thomas into someone else.  It comes back to the question of how much of Thomas comes from the human and how much from the presence of the parasite.

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I always figured that Harry was a direct descendant of merlin. We know that Ebenezer's journals go back to merlin what if the journals are passed though a family but wizards being wizards no one realizes that they were all related. We don't know who taught eb what if it was an estranged parent. Ebenezer had to learn it from someone and acts like it's the only way to protect his family

Yeah, but if Merlin left any blood descendants at all, by now there would almost certainly be Merlinian blood in half the population.

Genealogy is funny that way, it's amazing how fast one person's descent lines spread out.  It's like Michael being descended from royalty.  Sure, but so is almost everyone else.  I have little doubt that I am descended from some of the Roman Emperors, for ex.  So is everyone else, to a first approximation.

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DF Spoilers / Re: Questions for Mab
« on: May 20, 2025, 08:23:49 PM »
It's possible, however I don't remember Slate exactly living high off the hog either.

I don't know that we ever saw enough of Slate's own life to say either way.

We do know that the former Summer Knight had a job as, IIRC, some sort of fantasy illustrator or artist.  For what that's worth.

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DF Spoilers / Re: Turncoat
« on: May 20, 2025, 08:21:33 PM »
Luccio was the captain of the Wardens at that time.  Granted the body switch screwed her up somewhat, hormones were firing her sex drive because she was in a younger body, and she no longer could make the special Warden swords, but basically to be captain of the Wardens of the White Council her wizard mojo is pretty strong.. It appeared to remain strong, otherwise it would have been noticed, yet Peabody and his ink managed to screw her up controlling her to the point of committing murder.  Or did Peabody screw everyone else up so badly with his ink that they just didn't notice that their Warden captain wasn't quite right anymore? What I am trying to say is apparently they didn't notice,


You know, that's an aspect of that whole affair that I had never really considered before.  I agree that Peabody probably couldn't produce major changes in older Wizards' behavior, but Staci's affair with Harry does present odd questions.

Staci herself commented afterward that as commander of the Wardens, it was not really wise for her to be carrying on an affair with a subordinate, surging hormones or not.  Did they keep the whole thing secret?  I never saw much sign of that.

Yet did nobody observe that this might be a questionable breach of discipline?  Granted the Council might not have any formal, official rules about such things, but it's hard not to see somebody thinking this was at least unwise or was a bad optic.  Esp. with Harry's tendency to make up his own rules.  I could easily see some other Warden muttering that "Dresden gets away with it because he's ****ing the Captain."  Bad for overall morale, even if the suspicion is false.

Flipside, those of the high echelons who distrust Harry would likely be freaked out by his being the Captain's bedmate, too.  "Has Dresden suborned the commander of our police force?!"

Mira's right about this aspect of things, that whole situation looks funny.

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DF Spoilers / Re: Thomas
« on: May 20, 2025, 08:11:07 PM »
I think both theories have been posted here over the years.. It will be interesting to see what happens now.  Actually Alfred might be able to "jail" the Hunger Demon leaving just Thomas minus the parasite.

I would be very surprised if Alfred can do that.

Someone once asked JB if Mab could remove Thomas' demon.  IIRC, JB said something like, yes, she could.  She could tear it right out of him.  The problem would be that there wouldn't be much left of Thomas when she got done.

The problem seems to be that after that first lethal feeding, the hunger demon and the human soul are more or less grafted together, sort of like a tree graft.  There's no sharp dividing line where one stops and the other begins, even though they are not the same entity either.  (A grafted tree is physically one organism, but genetically two or more, too.)

Harry sort of saw this in his soulgaze with Thomas back in the day, in the Gaze, he saw human Thomas, the person he would have been if the parasite had been destroyed in time: not quite so handsome, apparently a bit nearsighted, and struggling with but locked to the demonic entity.

It's that spiritual 'grafting' that makes separating Thomas and the demon (or Lara, or any of them) so hard.  If you tear out the demon, you tear out some of the human with it, too.  Such a separation would thus need both immense power, and surgical precision, if it's doable at all.


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So we know that fully turning into a Red Court Vampire comes with clear and obvious physical changes (you're not a leathery bat-thing that can pretend to be human), but what, exactly, are the mental changes?

Butcher's world seems to imply that RC Vampires are automatically evil when they fully change. What changes cause this? Is it possible that a small number of them managed to hang on to their humanity somehow? Like "Angel" from Buffy the Vampire Slayer?

I doubt it...wait, no.

We've seen that Red-Ortega retained some of real Ortega's adoration of Arianna.  But like Mira, I still think a full Red Vampire is not the person who existed before.  I think that person dies in the transformation.

But the brain is still there, still full of information and data and habits and skills.  It's just that the soul that once used them has departed, and been replaced by this thing from the Nevernever.  So a Red Vampire might retain most or all of the knowledge, some of the habits, but like a Black Vampire, it's still a different entity from victim it replaced.

The White Vampires are different, the original human soul is still there, grafted on to the parasite.

That's why, among other things, WVs produce techbane when they use magic, and Red Vampires don't.

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DF Spoilers / Re: And another thing...Justine
« on: April 30, 2025, 02:36:52 AM »
However the original cause of her insanity isn't addressed, so you'd think that without the vamp sex, Justine would revert because she'd be like any other mentally ill person who reverts when they are off their meds..

It's not the sex itself that helps the condition, it's the feeding.  Sex is just bait and the channel the Raiths like to use to get the energy.  They can feed in other ways, like Skavis and Malvora do.  (IIRC, JB once said that in theory a WV could feed on the warm and fuzzy feeling from petting a kitten, though he added that the WV would probably sparkle if they did it, so he might have been joking about that).

The White Vampires feed on emotional energy, which is also life energy.  Justine in her manic state generates too much positive energy, in the depressed state too much negative.  The emotions are the energy and vice versa.  When Thomas feeds on Justine, it takes away those excess energies, leaving her more or less 'normal'...as long as he doesn't take too much or too often, of course.  In that respect, a manic depressive is the perfect prey for a WV with enough self control to limit their take, because they can be fed on without hurting them, and even to their benefit.

(Ignoring the potential issue of supersex addiction, of course.)

And yeah, once Thomas couldn't feed on her any more, one would expect that she would either revert over time to her manic/depressive state, or have to use medication to control it.  Which might be where Nemesis got its hooks in.

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DF Spoilers / Re: Twelve Months - What our you expecting from it?
« on: April 30, 2025, 02:29:08 AM »
I don't necessary _expect_ to see this in Twelve Months.  But I think it would be interesting it JB went that route.

Imagine if on the other time line, because of Harry's choice, the Red Court managed to get enough of an advantage to break the White Council.  So there's either no Council over there, or it's weak and in disarray and can't fulfill its purpose.

It could serve as an illustration to Harry why the Council is so important, why even his allies like Eb and Injun Joe and so on refuse to risk disrupting it.  Seeing a world without the Council might give Harry a little different perspective on this world.

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DF Spoilers / Re: One of the most White Court things I've seen ...
« on: April 26, 2025, 04:23:52 AM »
Probably NSFW, in case you're at work; tho neither X- nor R-rated.
Music video, so not quiet, either.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DsxzBCr2zNM

So yes!  I could almost imagine Lara and her sisters setting up a party like that...

Or alternatively, a touch of Winter Fae inspiration.  The look of combined exaltation and exhaustion on his face suggests the legends of Lea's victims...


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DF Spoilers / Re: Does anyone think Harry isn’t the original Merlin?
« on: April 26, 2025, 04:16:04 AM »
I really doubt Harry is literally a younger version of THE Merlin.  I don't want him to be that, either.  It's too simplistic, it's almost the classic time travel time loop story.

But I do think that there is some strong connection of some sort between Merlin and Harry, and I suspect that Harry might, way down the road, master magic at Merlinian levels.  But that would probably be off-stage and post-story.  I suspect Harry will eventually meet Merlin, too, either because he's still out there somewhere or through time travel.

(Another possibility that I've toyed with, though I don't think it likely, is that the culmination of the series will end with The Magic Goes Away, i.e. the world becomes non-magical and the supernatural powers fade away.  But I don't expect that.)

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DF Spoilers / Re: Mab is Morgana le Fey. Discuss.
« on: April 26, 2025, 04:09:16 AM »
Morgana's Athame mentioned so prominently in the early books, connection to OG Merlin. Fit's with Arthurian Fae Lore.

Makes sense.

My first thought was that it was a stretch...but then it occurred to me that it might depend on which myth has the story right.

According to several sources, Arthur was more-or-less raped by one of his sisters using witchcraft, and this was how Mordred was conceived.  (The version I heard most often is that the spell made him have a dream that he was making love to his wife, when he was actually with a witch.)

Now which sister varies.  Some accounts have it being Morgan, others Morgause. 

There's also a story that Nimue (in most of these versions a student and lover of Merlin) trapped Merlin (the original) in an enchanted slumber, too.

Now we know from recent DF works that Mab was 'involved' with Merlin, and is still sensitive on the subject...

The thing is that the myths conflict, but somewhere in the tangle is whatever actually happened back then in the DV.  So while I doubt Mab is Morgan...I'm pretty sure she knew Morgan well.  I wonder if Mab might not be Nimue, though.  IIRC one of the enemy taunted Mab about being cast out by Merlin, maybe he broke out of the enchanted sleep and was in a bad mood or something.

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DF Spoilers / Re: The Erl King a Vassal of Winter?
« on: April 26, 2025, 04:03:44 AM »
That's a fantheory I've read, but IIRC WoJ has explicitly denied it.  In particular, there is only one Winter Queen & Summer Queen, and there is no corresponding singular King for either.  The Erlking is a king (who is Summer(ish)), but not the king -- except of the Goblins.

I don't even think Kringle is a "King" per se; but (as a part of Winter) he is in fact subject to Mab (something she's careful about, since the current Kringle is only part-time, and the rest of the time he's... rather more than that).

It would be interesting to see how Kringle interacts with the Mothers.  JB said at one point that pretty much everybody in Faerie is subordinate to the Mothers, but is Odin?  I mean he's not exactly 'of Faerie' in his own identity...

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DF Spoilers / Re: The Erl King a Vassal of Winter?
« on: March 25, 2025, 05:26:19 AM »
But the discussion explicitly states that the Erl King is on par with the queens of Faerie… that he’s a peer of Mab.  If he randomly joined Winter between Dead Beat and Battle Ground that would be a huge shift in Winter’s favor… it is an unbalancing of forces.  That doesn’t make sense.

The Erlking is of Summer.

He's only a 'peer' of Mab/Titania in a legalistic sense, that is, he's a sort of 'King of Summer'.  His raw power is far less than either Queen.  I don't know how he would stack up against the Winter/Summer Lady.

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DF Spoilers / Re: Questions for Mab
« on: March 15, 2025, 06:31:05 AM »
In “The Law” Harry mentions how he only has funds to run the Castle for 18 months… that must be his Skin Game loot.  At some point Harry’s constant money problems are just ridiculous.  Can our Author not just addess that?

I'm pretty sure the Author has no wish to do so.

Money is power.  If Harry has access to lots of cash on a regular basis, his life gets easier, his options more extensive, it gets harder to wrap him in plot difficulties.

Remember back in Turn Coat:  Harry was hiding Morgan from the Council and almost everyone else, but he had only a handful of places he could use.  Luckily for him, most of the people hunting him were used to having lots of resources and didn't fully grasp how limited Harry's options were.

Binder did get it, and he actually said at one point "Money never gets it."  Binder is working class background and he understood exactly why Harry was doing things they way he did them.

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