I probably would allow it - for the simple fact that the initial stunt probably wouldn't get a heck of a lot of use otherwise. But again, up to the GM.

You're kidding, right?

In a game where there are vampires that can cause you to experience emotion in order to attack you, to manipulate you, to block you... Calm Blue Ocean is awesome.

Hunger is not an emotion, by the way.

I have a link bookmarked that deals with this topic. This is from back in the day when they were first writing the game and telling everyone how things were going to work.

http://www.jimbutcheronline.com/bb/index.php?topic=36700.0

What's the difference between Worldwalker and Swift Transition? Conceptually, both seem to allow you to jump in or out of the Nevernever pretty much anywhere.

It seems like Swift Transition is for creatures who have a natural affinity to the Nevernever... as in, that's where they belong. So they can pop in and out as they like.

World Walker makes portals, which allows a person to bring other people with you. It also conveys other abilities that make it easy to find places to make these portals, and navigate the Nevernever.

That's what it looks like.

The question comes up because I'm hard pressed to think of a situation in which a PC would need to roll Presence. In play testing the game, every time this sort of thing comes up, it seems like it would be a Rapport roll.

What's the practical difference between the Skills Presence and Rapport?

From what I understand, the difference is one between passively having charm or the ability to get attention and actively being charming and getting attention. It's a fine line... and I think that Fate Core was wise in doing away with the distinction. For the Dresden Game the writers may have felt a need for the two different Skills... but I'm having trouble seeing it with my own eyes.

What do you guys think?

If I were making rules for this sort of thing, I might try to model it on the concept that intruding into the mind of another affects the caster just as profoundly as it affects the target. The rules for a Soulgaze or the Sight are sort of built around this idea, which is one of the founding principles found in the Laws of Magic. Breaking those Laws breaks part of you in some way. I know that looking to the Laws of Magic isn't for balance issues isn't an answer, I'm just looking at the reasoning. There is a reason people don't do this. They're very scary, unstable people, or very skilled, or very foolish. Why? That's what I would look to to model rules if I were to do it.

Too Alien a Mind -- I think this could work like a Compel on the part of the GM vs the attacking character. You Compel any of the Aspects that identifies the PC as mortal and say something like, "I'm going to offer a Compel. Because you're a WIZARD PRIVATE EYE, you're but a mere mortal. Loki's mind is far afield and attempting to direct your Air Evocation as a Mental Attack just doesn't work the way you planned..."

That would at least give players an option to make a Mental Evocation by spending a Fate point. A Compel like this wouldn't be necessary when attacking a mortal, though. (Which might explain the Laws of Magic that govern mental intrusions, to curb the abuse of power mortal practitioners have over their own kind).

I have a question: I'm under the impression that someone always gets to Defend against an Attack, regardless of what kind of attack it is. Several times, I have seen contributors to threads say things that intimate that most (or some) targets couldn't defend against a Mental Attack. For example, do people let the targets of Incite Emotion powers Defend against them? Especially if using the Attack upgrade of the power?

Are all these categories of magic things that have been displayed in the Dresden Files series of novels? Or are they just really interesting things people have come up with for their own PCs during a game?

Most of the Sponsored Magics cost -4 Refresh, but there are a couple that cost -5 Refresh. What's the reasoning for that?

Also, how did the concept of the "Extra Benefits" come about? Is that something that's part and parcel with Sponsored Magic? Do Seelie and Unseelie magic have Extra Benefits?