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DF Spoilers / Re: A pattern in last 4 books
« on: November 02, 2017, 07:32:05 PM »
I have always heard good vs evil is about who you sacrifice.

A) Good (period) will sacrifice parts of the self to improve the bigger picture.
B) Good idealists will sacrifice the self to improve the bigger picture.
C) Evil idealists will sacrifice others to improve the bigger picture.
D) Evil (period) will sacrifice others to improve the self.

Looking this way, Harry has shades of B & C during changes. This puts him below Charity, who seems to hang about more on the B side during Proven Guilty (of course so did Harry during that book).
Deirde in Skin Game is firmly at B, and hence, was better than Harry during Changes.
Nic in Skin Game is firmly at C, and hence is pretty nasty but not the worst. Aurora was here too, if she hadn't been so obviously wrong (we don't know about Nic yet).
Papa Raith seemed to be pretty much at D, as are most of the villains-du-jour (Warlocks, Sells, etcetera).

Category C makes for better villains, because you occassionally wonder if they have a point. Maybe Deirdre or Nicodemus really needed to die to save the world.

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DF Spoilers / Re: Knight Ceremony [Cold Case Spoilers]
« on: November 02, 2017, 07:19:31 PM »
Personally, I was struck by how, when sealing a definitive bargain, Molly used a kiss.

Maybe the bigger the bargain the bigger the physical intimacy, with Harry's help-for-Knighthood being a particularly big bargain thus requiring serious intimacy (or maybe Mab just always uses that; the Lady-the-flirt a kiss, the Queen-the-mother sex).

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DF Spoilers / Re: Who was the real target of the bloodline curse at CI?
« on: October 15, 2017, 07:11:05 PM »
The thing is wont the use of such a large scale magical attack encourage other factions to demonstrate similar capability. You don't bring a knife to a gun fight, it is sure to cause an escalation so some kind of balance of power to emerge.

The Reds had long since been going for broke. You don't start a fight with Faerie after already being at war with the Council unless you're basically going for nr. 1. And nr. 1 would be reinforced by having an ungodly powerful weapon that even your allies would be worried about.

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DF Spoilers / Re: Best adaptions of myth and folklore
« on: October 15, 2017, 07:01:05 PM »
*leans forward in chair* excuse me? never caught on to this one...
Oh R'lyeh?

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DF Spoilers / Re: Best adaptions of myth and folklore
« on: October 12, 2017, 06:01:39 PM »
Oh yeah, another one:

The Dominions line of video games. The budget is low, but the fantasy kitchen sink approach works.

Where else can a Christian Roman Empire face off against the underworld Lizards, Deep Ones and Starchildren of Lovecraftian fame, the Nephilim of Judaic lore, the Phoenicians, Greek heroes riding the occasional Pegasus, the Allfather, Heart-ripping Aztecs, Satyrs and Panii, Steel-casting Germanic tribes, Druidic armies, Man-eating Amazons, Chinese from the Spring and Autumn period, African Witch doctors, fire elementals, semi-Zoroastrian winged Persians, Cavedwelling giants, Sidhe (with some pre-Sidhe thrown in the mix), Fomorians, Nordic Frost Giants, Rakshasas, Buddhist Apes, Enkidu and his kin, Japanese wild demons, Mermen (and their near-humanoid amphibian kin)... and since a short while, some undead Greek-ish ghosts?

Well, I suppose Harry nearly can ;)

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DF Spoilers / Re: Who was the real target of the bloodline curse at CI?
« on: October 12, 2017, 05:50:46 PM »
It is also possible that it was a gamble.

As in, they didn't need it so strong - but Arianna had arranged things so there was a good chance Eb would be ill in Edinburgh. Use the curse, and Edinburgh's wards are torn to shreds - so a RC strike team can hit the council while half of it is ill and the other half surprised by the violent destruction of their pretty, pretty wards.

If she misses? Eb is still off the table, as is pesky Harry Dresden, and half the Council is both ill and cowering after seeing even the Senior Council is not safe from the Reds, even when prepared for war.

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DF Spoilers / Re: Best adaptions of myth and folklore
« on: October 07, 2017, 07:15:21 PM »
American Gods, anyone?
Yeah, though its Odin jars after too much Dresden Files ;)

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DF Spoilers / Re: "Conjure by it at your own risk."
« on: October 07, 2017, 05:09:13 PM »
I think we should slot White Night into this discussion.

In White Night, Harry uses Elaine's Name to connect with her, and then talk to her - but he only reinforced who she was, he did not somehow control her. Just not sure how to fit that in further.

As regards to conjuring by Harry, the biggest problem is the one Harry faces with the Erlking - containment. You can contain a summoned fairy, but humans have Free Will, and so can cross most circles. Add in his sheer bloody-mindedness, so even the common ways to prevent him crossing the circle (like, say, guarddogs, as used on Ivy) would not necessarily work - and once he's across your circles, you're in a fight for your life.

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DF Spoilers / Re: What if it isn't just power over Outsiders?
« on: October 07, 2017, 10:10:21 AM »
I think Snark Knight and jonas are right that we've got pretty compelling evidence for Harry having the power of naming. The eye flashes of Alfred and Erl as Harry named them, Mr. Sunshine's fear of being called Uri, etc. Naming in the bible was a power given to Adam over beasts in Genesis, it came directly from TWG. Maybe there's a connection there.

I also think Kindler might be on to something, noting Harry's similarity to Odin and other divine beings. Harry is the only mortal we have seen wielding raw will, as opposed to magic. Other than Harry, we've seen raw will from:

Ferrovax
Odin
Red King / LoON
Mother Winter
The Walkers

There might be one or two others (Mab maybe?) but it has been limited to nigh-immortals and Harry. Given that summoning Outsiders seems to be tied to mortals and their "free will," it seems to me that "power over Outsiders" could actually be "the ability of a mortal to directly apply their will," or "a mortal with enough will to effectively apply it directly." It is after beating Sharkface in a battle of wills that the Erlking says "Well done, Starborn!"  Naming seems to fit in with being a will-based power as well.

Leah probably deployed Will, or her disguise at Chichen Itza would have been poor indeed.

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DF Spoilers / Re: Changes battle, we only saw the surface?
« on: October 07, 2017, 10:06:54 AM »
I'd add that, not only did the active parties play a role - a lot of people acted by not opposing their counterparts.

Who's the natural enemy of the Winter Knight and Mab's handmaiden acting so brazenly? Summer. And they were not there.
Who's the natural enemy of the Knights of the Cross? The Denarians. And they were not there.

The Red Court was really not being particularly risky, they were insulated from anything but every other active member of the supernatural community acting or not-acting together in an effort to crush them. And even then, it was pretty damned close.

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DF Spoilers / Re: Wizard strength level
« on: October 07, 2017, 09:48:04 AM »
Or maybe his generation just sucks, I guess that's the other explanation for why the strongest of his generation is only top 30 or so.

And here I thought Harry delivered a challenge to the entire Senior Council and showed. And the Senior Council chose to deploy 3 of its members to handle him. Almost as if they would believe he's not all that bad, certainly more than just top 30.

Given natural progression from getting more efficient, Harry might well be stronger than any on the Senior Council (although by such strength levels, skill in a particular theme is more critical).

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DF Spoilers / Re: Has Eb already chosen his successor? If he has, who?
« on: September 16, 2017, 04:25:31 PM »
Who would be her Skeletor?  If Skeletor was He-man's uncle, maybe Harry Carpenter goes dark?

That would rather undermine the image of the Carpenter family, if all its members end up evil, crazy, or at least on the shortlist for such positions. At least Molly had her magic to override the 'good family' image.

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DF Spoilers / Re: Hierarchy of the Courts
« on: August 29, 2017, 07:28:32 PM »
Can you tell me where you learned this?
I was thinking, since the queens ARE the courts they balance each other pretty well(SK when Harry actually sight gazes the queens)
And I can't remember the precise reply but there should be a woj on this in existence asking if EG is Lea's opposite and Jim saying something to the effect that it's not a role for role balance inside the courts but more of a... something? Cumulative effect?
Mother Summer more or less outright states it in Cold Days. Mab can beat Summer any day she likes, provided she's willing to forfeit reality and see herself dragged down by Titania.

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DF Spoilers / Re: WK Mantle or Lawbreaker taint?
« on: July 01, 2017, 06:54:26 PM »

Yeah, Hannah Asher had reason for her initial killing, being raped for heaven sake, but she didn't surrender to the Wardens at that time. If she had a good advocate she might have survived under the Doom.  Though as stated these days wizards like Harry who'd take up her cause are few and far between.  Actually Harry might have gotten the chop if his grandpa hadn't stepped in, and would Harry have stuck his neck out for Molly if she wasn't Michael's kid?  So it is understandable that Hannah ran from the Wardens, but at the same time was she ever able to check her slide into warlockhood?  It isn't totally clear whether or not at the time of Changes when her friends died when their vamp halves died that she wasn't already a warlock.  She was angry enough that Lasciel was able to tempt her so she could gain revenge.

Well, we know the Fellowship was pretty extremist but sane, so I think Hannah must have stuck to mostly sane while there; and Binder, while on the risky side, seems unlikely to throw in with a gibbering madwoman.

So I suspect she controlled her darker impulses pretty well, and if she'd won a reprieve from the Council she'd probably have reformed.

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DF Spoilers / Re: WK Mantle or Lawbreaker taint?
« on: July 01, 2017, 08:11:09 AM »
Technically it was all self defense which is allowed under the Laws. 
I think Hannah Ascher would have liked that, if it were true.

But so far as I know, it's not.

That said - Harry didn't use magic to kill the red court, he used a knife. Ergo, he should be safe from the black magic taint (but not at all from the general mental degradation associated with having to kill a loved one, which may have made him callous about the death of others such as the hunter in Cold Days).

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