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Yes.  A wizard's powers can be stolen.

Evidence: In Grave Peril, the Nightmare eats a part of Harry's spirit.  After that, the Nightmare is able to take corporeal form and cast spells -- and Harry's own magic is noticeably weaker.

Permanently?  Less clear.  But Harry was worried that he might never regain his power if he didn't take it back from Kravos by force, which he does.  However, what we learn later about the way a person's soul regenerates over time and with certain life-affirming experiences... it probably wouldn't have been a permanent loss.

Would the White Council do this?

No.  Not a chance.  It feels like dark magic.  It probably corrupts the one who steals the power -- especially if they're taking the power from someone corrupted or dark.  Anyone who is dangerous enough that they'd consider this technique... should just be beheaded.

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DF Spoilers / Re: WAG: What Rashid's Eye Does...
« on: June 21, 2017, 02:04:42 AM »
One of these days, I'm going to have to watch Dragon Ball Z... just so I can get all the right nerdy jokes.  :)

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DF Spoilers / WAG: What Rashid's Eye Does...
« on: June 20, 2017, 08:25:39 PM »
In the DV, power often comes with a drawback that prevents its overuse.

We've seen one artifact -- the Blackstaff -- with the power to eliminate the main drawback of black magic (the taint).

What if Rashid's Eye does something similar, but with the Sight?  Maybe it acts as a filter -- the Eye uses the Sight and then passes a weaker version of the image on to Rashid.  So he doesn't get an unforgettable memory and isn't overwhelmed.

This would let him, a mortal wizard, use the Sight nearly continuously -- like on a stream of fae soldiers marching back through the Outer Gates -- without losing his sanity, making it an excellent tool for exactly the job he does.

If this is right, then Rashid has more experience using the Sight than any sane wizard, by far.  He should be really good at extracting information from the usually rather abstract information the Sight provides.  (At least as we've seen it through Harry's third eye.)

This could explain a lot of his apparent Foresight, and what he did when his false eye looked Harry up and down at the docks on Demonreach. 

Thoughts?

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DF Spoilers / Re: Lara-Nemesis-Oblivion War
« on: June 17, 2017, 03:22:18 PM »
I can think of two ways to make the Oblivion War make sense...

1) Things have changed.

   Once upon a time, eldritch horrors could come and go and make themselves known to early man.  Something changed (perhaps the building of the Outer Gates or the rise of organized pantheons of gods who pushed out other powerful beings who might compete for worship) and now only the knowledge of free-willed humans keeps them tethered at all to our world.

or

2) First Contact is Hard.

   In Proven Guilty, Harry describes how things can cross over from the NeverNever -- either someone here calls to it (even unconsciously as it turns out) or something really, really powerful pushes it through from the other side.

   It stands to reason that something making contact from "the other side" for the first time would have to push through -- requiring a substantial amount of effort.  Perhaps it's also hard to find our world out of all of the possible worlds and the vast space of the NeverNever, so it would take an eldritch horror a long time and a lot of energy to get back here once it's been forgotten.


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DF Spoilers / Re: What is a Saint? (Series Spoilers)
« on: June 17, 2017, 02:52:59 PM »
I'd like to butt in at this point and say this - why is the assumption that a Saint can only be a worshipper of the Abrahamic Almighty? There could well be a Horus worshipping saint, or (tickles my fancy, this one) a mercenary who doubles as a saint because he's the purest of Odin worshippers.

The DV is definitely a universe in which Taoist saints and bodhisattvas and Hindu avatars and Catholic saints and Norse gods and vodoun loa can meet up at a cocktail party thrown by Anansi and the Monkey King.  (No idea if I got all the capitalizations right in that sentence.)

But different faiths definitely have different ideas of what a "holy man" looks like!

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DF Spoilers / Re: The Mothers' Cottage and Earth...
« on: June 16, 2017, 04:54:24 AM »
The NeverNever is much bigger than the Earth.

Although you can open a Way from anywhere on the Earth and get to somewhere in the NeverNever, I'm not sure the converse is true.

Example: I doubt that there's anywhere on the Earth from which you could open up a simple Way and find yourself inside the walls of Arctis Tor -- it wouldn't be much of a fortress if you could.

Same with places like the Outer Gates, the Mothers's Cottage, and any number of religious holies-of-holies.

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DF Spoilers / Re: Are the Mothers immune to iron?
« on: June 15, 2017, 01:03:00 AM »
I like to think that Mother Winter is just so badass/powerful that despite being just as vulnerable to Iron as any other Faerie, she keeps some in her mouth as a statement. "I use my own personal Kryptonite as Dentures, you want some of this?"

This.

A bit like Hades' crown of Mordite.


Can you imagine the physical incarnation of decay and destruction being vulnerable to a random metal?

MW is far more than just a faerie queen.

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DF Spoilers / Re: What is a Saint? (Series Spoilers)
« on: June 07, 2017, 12:11:35 PM »
Given that this is the DV, the real answer is probably "All of the Above".

That's more along the lines of traditional meaning but the one thing that stands out is that (I think) Jim said that when the Black Court was being attacked by humans there were KoTC, wizards, other vampire courts, and even some Saints.  I might be remembering it wrong but I thought it was something like that.

Yeah.  We've seen that faith is a source of magical power -- from the fake Shroud of Turin to Michael's prayers.  I'd imagine there are people with a bit more magical training who have learned how to channel faith magic specifically.  (I remember there being some hints of that in one of the White Council meetings -- maybe the one at the end of Turn Coat?)

I'm picturing a priest whipping a congregation up into a pitchfork-and-torches kill-the-vampire mob, marching at the front with a sacred relic, and channeling the faith of the crowd into magic spells.

Perhaps something like that is what HD/JB meant in the Black Court quote.

So, yeah, what Griffin said.  :)

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DF Spoilers / Re: What is a Saint? (Series Spoilers)
« on: June 07, 2017, 02:14:45 AM »
I would have said that a holy person *becomes* a Saint after death.

A Saint is a deceased human who you pray to, asking them to intercede on your behalf with the big G, as someone who was once human and interested in the kind of difficulty you're having.

Example: Michael might have said a prayer to St. George before he took on Siriothrax.


So... consider Murphy's Dad.  He's dead.  He heads up an office somewhere in the transition between our world and the next.  He has an angel standing guard at the door.  He works for Uriel.

WAG of all WAGs:  Murphy's Dad might be the patron saint of cops and others trying to keep people safe from the things that go bump in the night.




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DF Spoilers / Re: On Nemesis and Why it can't / doesn't infect Humans
« on: June 04, 2017, 11:39:49 PM »
Of course with what we know now, I suspect a half-vampire like Martin would count as mortal-enough, and probably there would a magician or two among the servants of the literally damned Court.

Good point.  And they'd have a long, long life to study magic.

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DF Spoilers / Re: On Nemesis and Why it can't / doesn't infect Humans
« on: June 03, 2017, 11:30:37 AM »
If it could, why would it not infect a Wizard, and have them simply summon outsider after outsider after outsider into reality until there is an overwhelming force?

Because summoning requires Free Will - which is why it requires a human.

So you can't compel someone to do it, and a possessing spirit can't do it using a human meat suit.

You have to persuade an uncompelled/uninfected human to do it.

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DF Spoilers / Re: Nemesis is different
« on: June 02, 2017, 04:38:12 PM »
One reason I think Nemesis is connected to Wizards is because it reminds me a lot of like what Molly did to her boyfriend when she mind controlled him.  Not only did she control him but the end result of such control is insanity of the person being controlled.  The way it "spreads" is like a wizard creating a conduit between himself and the one they want to control.  That first link was the Athame, provided by Cowl and the Black Council.  Nemesis didn't just start controlling people, it needs a connection of some kind.  Again this sounds a lot like a wizard to me or group of them. 

The more I think about it the more I think that the Black Council is a group of spell casters that create a link between themselves and their target, and working together overpower the mind, and bend to their will...  Nemesis, the Adversary are actually a cult of dark wizards who's goal is to become the rulers of reality.  Perhaps Merlin created the White Council because of the Black Council.  That could mean the Black Council has existed before the White Council...

I like this idea.  It consolidates two of our mysterious behind-the-scenes enemies (BC and Nem) into one.

Lots of interesting questions come out of this:
  • Cowl's "end death" sales pitch... was that just tailored for Kumori, or is there more to it?  (See: Dr. Strange's villains who want to end death by making a bargain with Dormamu...)
  • What would an Outsider victory really look like?  (And what do the conspirators think it would look like? What do the members of the Circle/Black Council/"Nemesis" want?)
  • Why is it so dangerous to speak the word?  Is it like the Merlin's fear of acknowledging the Black Council's existence?  (That many wizards and sorcerers would join the "rebellion" if they knew of it, without knowing the full story?)
  • Why haven't they tried directly to recruit Harry?  (Or *DID* they -- was Kumori's approach a first attempt at this?  Is that why Cowl left Harry alive in DB?)
  • Which side is Nicodemus on?  Does he support the conspiracy or oppose it?? 

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DF Spoilers / Re: Cowl's Identity
« on: November 15, 2016, 06:22:37 AM »
I voted Simon as well.  He's the single most likely.

But I also like the theory that Kemmler corpsetook Justin and then came back again as Cowl.

But I can think of all kinds of things wrong with each theory.  So I wouldn't be surprised to be surprised, if that makes any sense.


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Or maybe it was. Fae are basically immortal, so 6 warriors might be the fighting equivalent of 600 years. Assuming that some die young while others last several hundred years or millennia.

Sure, but you still have to put them in to proportion with the size of the army they will serve in -- millions strong.

This was more important as a symbolic gesture.  There are many, many more places where outsiders/Fomor have been picking away at Winter's recruiting -- because Winter appeared too weak to defend them.  Molly will no doubt have to make a few more examples, but word will get around.

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DF Reference Collection / Re: Current DR wardens
« on: March 21, 2016, 07:29:41 PM »
I thought he meant that the term "Warden" used to refer to the White Council police force is a nod to the position of DR's Warden.  That once upon a time DR's Warden was the head of the White Council's police force.  Or something like that.  But DR was always something of a secret, so people didn't realize that.  And the origin of "the Wardens" was lost to the memory of all but a few senior wizards... and DR itself.

At the time, I remember speculating that Harry's role as DR's Warden comes with some official status and/or responsibilities in the White Council (something adjunct like the Blackstaff, and similarly not something most wizards know about) -- something that could come up during Peace Talks, perhaps, and make Harry's life more complicated.

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