Yeah, Thaumaturgy isn't an Element, so there's no real way to get power bonuses to it. And I'd personally say that Complexity does for Thaumaturgy-as-Evocation exactly what it does for other Thaumaturgy...allow higher Complexity effects without prep-work or Aspects. Heck, that's even more useful if you're doing it as Evocation.

Yes, this does mean that the Mental Stress may get a little high from exceeding your Conviction from doing this too much (especially if you're good at the variety of Thaumaturgy you're using and going all out), but that seems fairly appropriate. On the other hand, since there are no indications of a base cost ala Evocation, it won't be likely to be as bad as all that.

except that the book gives you examples that say you can use your sponsored magic as an element in and of it self, in addition to supercharging an element.

In addition, Summer magic may be used as an element for evocation, allowing evocation spell effects that encourage wildness, birth, growth, renewal, and warmth.

In addition, Winter magic may be used as an element for evocation, allowing evocation spell effects that encourage wildness, decay, slumber, death, and cold.

Maybe give him a unique type of feeding dependency that essentially lets the Loa take control of his body for the number of scenes his has to be out of to recover his powers. During the time the possessing loa would be embracing vices unique to that Loa. For example I know some loa are supposed to dig Whiskey and Cigars, or wanton sex, etc. That could buy him a few more refresh points and it adds a mechanical means of paying the Loa.

Also note that FP's who have Ritual (Item Creation) can go longer without needing to upgrade to thaumaturgy than any other type of FP.

They can a +3, a +2 and a +1 (Yay for +3 Strength, +2 Uses and +1 Focus Items, thats some wicked potion brewing).

You can do Psychomancy as Evocations if you pick up Kemmlerian Necromancy, but a Kemmlerian Necromancer really isn't worth it. It's a refresh 15 character considering your likely to have at least 3 fully upgraded lawbreakers if you want to pull of a Necromancer well.

The magical mechano hand is totally doable I think, all it needs to do is read the character's mind for how he wants to move it, or maybe he works up a spell that transmits the thoughts of how he wants to move his hand to the mecha hand.

It doesn't matter what I intend to do with the sword, you want to tie the creation of a thing with the use of a thing, which is different. One can make a sword for more than just killing. What if the intent behind the forging of a sword was for defense? Defense might include killing, but it doesn't have to. Sometimes just having a sword would be enough to stop a fight.

Lets move away from the sword, lets say I conjure a brick. I can use that brick as part of a wall, or I can throw it through somebodies window, or I can use it to bash a skull in. Its just a brick.

Creating a weapon is not a first law violation. Using a weapon to murder is. (A riff on "guns don't kill people, people do" but I think it's valid.)

I think the key word here is "murder":

1. To kill (another human) unlawfully.
2. To kill brutally or inhumanly.
3. To put an end to; destroy: murdered their chances.
4. To spoil by ineptness; mutilate: a speech that murdered the English language.
5. Slang To defeat decisively; trounce.

So just going out with the intent to kill a human would get you a lawbreaker for using the sword. If while defending yourself with it, it kills a human, well, thats self defense, not murder, and a warden lawfully executing a warlock wouldn't trigger it.


Here is a different example:

Lets say I use my skill In fire Evocation to freeze water into a spike, then I kill somebody with it. Lawbreaker or not?

Ok, here is a question. Lets say I conjure a sword, then hand it to Steve. Steve then takes that sword and goes on a murderous rampage. Do I get a lawbreaker? Probably not.

Im going to say Yes, you can dismiss your own conjurations (see redirecting spell energy on page 260), in my opinion it would just be redirecting the energy holding the conjuration together in a safe way (ie not using it for an attack or just letting it bleed into the environment).

As to the second question, Luminos is asking because of my character who has access to soulfire, and uses a Rote Spell that conjures (soulfire lets me use conjuration at evocation speed, neato) a sword. So Im interested in your opinions as well.