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DF Spoilers / Re: Pyrofuego
« on: May 27, 2024, 11:16:00 PM »
The_Sibelis has been banned.  Obviously they were unhappy with the admins here, and should feel free to find places where they can feel more comfortable.

Overall, friends?  Read the Precepts.  Follow the Precepts.  Be civil.  Have fun.
~Blaze as Mod.
overall? Good luck with What Follows.
I've been complaining about the sam thing since before this aeon began. It's been ignored an now enabled.  That is the line.

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DF Spoilers / Re: Pyrofuego
« on: May 27, 2024, 08:05:20 PM »
I am going to make this really clear. I and the other mods will not tolerate rule breaking and general antisocial behaviour.
your perspective is quite colored. You are not modding here, you are closing ranks and othering those who are not part of your monkey sphere.
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We don't have the time or patience for it. I am not going to spend all my time warning people.
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you do not, you do not.
Be kind and courteous to each other, read the rules and precepts and Rules of Don't again. I advise everybody to do that just to be clear on everything.
something that should indeed be done, i fear in your haste you have overlooked some in favor of those you prefer.
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Most people here are very well behaved and I won't have it ruined for them. [/b]
there. There is the reveal of your corrupted intentions. You don't care about the quality of the group, that it deserves to exist or not.
You. Care. About your monkey sphere an are reacting from your monkey mind. Ignoring ongoing harassment that's literally lasted from.before.your.time. to redouble your efforts for your own little monkey sphere.  Which is not the forum! Not the site! Not the messenge!
Your supposed to take pride in the institution as an ideal, to preserve your innocent vision of a broken city.  You are the infestation of an open wound.

Word to the wise, step out of it. Because anyone left standing in your lil sphere might get crushed by the pressure see?
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DF Spoilers / Re: Pyrofuego
« on: May 14, 2024, 02:13:12 AM »
  If he can no longer capture it, then he doesn't have it... ??? Nor will he have it.. :( So what exactly is the point of saying why he couldn't.. ???
to express myself. Which is allowed here. What is the point of this particular comment? To harass? That's specifically not.
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How exactly does the ability to capture a beam of sunshine in a hanky turn into a man on fire?  ???  Just because you can catch a couple of drops of rain in a glass that doesn't turn you into a water fall.... ::)
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now your willfully being ignorant. Here I'll give you exactly what you want right here right now. [Comment removed for rule breaking]-mod team

 
Maybe you think you replaced it, but with the loss of Susan Harry's happiness was kaput!  You see that's what is behind the ability to catch that old sunbeam.. Happiness is seems is a vital component, like trying to do a tracking spell without... Well, you get the point.. Really? :o ??? :-X
[Comment removed for rule breaking]-mod team. This place needs to come down just as much as the white council does.

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DF Spoilers / Re: Pyrofuego
« on: May 13, 2024, 11:05:39 PM »
And I never said anything about how he used it, so we're already going off topic here. I addressed why he couldn't.
Yes, although reddit is a poor choice to back a claim. A 'man on fire' is not implied to be a happy person, no?
Losing someone you love, not by loss but by force of circumstances beyond your control. Yes, his happiness was gone, I haven't denied it. I supplied what replaced it see?
Seriously people... go look up double empathy an see if it's just you who's not grasping how the other communicates.. Because I'm reading just fine.
In fact, my ability to read into people is specifically what I bring to the table 👀

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DF Spoilers / Re: Pyrofuego
« on: May 13, 2024, 08:55:17 PM »
Except she wasn't just "repeating" it.

For one thing, you used a specific jargon term, "aspect" (his aspect of happy light fire) which (depending on who is reading, and how much they know of the "extended canon") might be taken specifically as a reference to game-mechanics from the Dresden Files Roleplaying Game, where "aspects" are a Really Big Deal, and only change at "milestone" events.

For another, she was explicitly disagreeing with you (more to do with his own emotional state... than any floodgates he opened).
actually that's a Symantec trap pulled before. An considering your alway the co-conspirator.. 👀  you rallying to her defense is less than anything to me.
Let me break that down properly then...
Harry states I believe that after Susan was half turned and went away that he was never able to capture sunshine in a hanky again. 
so, after Susan was changed, an he unleashed his passion and outrage, he couldn't do the hanky? 🤔  most auspiciously what i said...
 
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It has more to do with his own emotional state, which though he is more at peace now, the unhappiness remains, than any floodgates he opened. 
the emotional state of a man on fire?
👏 yes. You prove my point most directly here. If you don't understand what I'm saying, ask. Because you also seem to think she disagreed. 👀  show me.
I've limited knowledge of the dfrp, my references were taken directly from the book. However, the game lore as I remember was so overlapping with the actual story they had to take things our so not to ruin future plots.
So thanks for bringing in the extracurricular evidence to back my theory 🙃 Harry's fire aspect changed because of how he used it. Intentions, even subconscious ones, color the magic used after all. An fire is directly related to sunlight aspect because it's all a flavor of summer as confirmed by hiding his blasting rod.
Maybe ask what a metaphorical man on fire is if you lack understanding of the concept off rip? Like hey, I didn't know that's the metaphor you gathered from Soul of the fire, Braveheart and other examples where the injustice of loss calls even the most broken men to war. Passion eh?

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DF Spoilers / Re: Pyrofuego
« on: May 13, 2024, 04:38:33 PM »
Harry states I believe that after Susan was half turned and went away that he was never able to capture sunshine in a hanky again. 
 It has more to do with his own emotional state, which though he is more at peace now, the unhappiness remains, than any floodgates he opened.
yoooi seriously, stip repeating exactly whf I just said likewise just didn't day it. Avoid me Mira. Periomd.  Not to day
Your literally repeating me word for word. Look I get it, double empathy your allistic and just don't understand how I think. I understand you just fine though. Atop replying to me, you literally repeat exactly what I said, an then someone will reply to you instead of me.
Might take other people longer, but I always see. See?

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DF Spoilers / Re: Pyrofuego
« on: May 11, 2024, 01:46:33 AM »
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Harry's motif in GP was fire, more so BECAUSE of the scene and it's related emotional response I think
Pyro fuego pyro. Can be translated with his intentions to do more. Say, HOT PASSION FIRE.
come to thunk it, that might be why he couldn't do the pocket full of sunshine after that specifically. He closed his aspect of happy light fire when he opened the floodgates of the metaphorical Man on Fire.

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DF Spoilers / Re: Pyrofuego
« on: May 08, 2024, 02:31:03 AM »
I always figured it had to do with alignment actually... not necessarily DnD style but that's a good marker because it involves multiple concepts.
Harry's Magical alignment varies throughout his career changing as he does in his style of usage. What I mean is, say SF he clearly gets a lightning motif, changing more fiery by GP,(let's see...) he gets more force magic in after the flamethrower, he'll fire from lasciel, ice from WK mantle, ect.
One caveat of magic(which just now I'm seeing a huge.. flaw? In harry being winter knight) is you are what you do and the more you do it the more it defines you.
Harry's motif in GP was fire, more so BECAUSE of the scene and it's related emotional response I think
Pyro fuego pyro. Can be translated with his intentions to do more. Say, HOT PASSION FIRE.(where were his other usages of it? We're they always a charged situation?)
He more or less, charged his magic with, himself, his soulfire. Uriel said he made him more of what he already was. I supposite, wizards can always use soulfire, the throwing of themselves into their spell completely.. but either by design or by concealment they weren't aware or couldn't break of that energy piecemeal, to access it is to throw the whole bottle..(which yes, I think does imply death curse wizards burn themselves into it)
An what Harry did might have been different because of his intentions, he didn't try to throw a death curse, he didn't intend to die an maybe, because he wasn't acting on instincts of destruction, it was in fact an example of the fabled opposite of a death curse, one born with intentions to create..
That he created destructive fire, is exactly why he was so torn by it. He had total control of it, it didn't burn him. The only other case we've seen of this is Justin
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which seemed to imply it was a matter more of control and belief(the two going hand in hand). The hardest part seemingly believing the disconnect from reality that is fire burns you.
Makes me wonder about 1 if NN domains can be so foreign because the owners idea of reality matches, al la Mab.
And 2 if Harry's immunity there isn't indicative of his position as a purifier(the nice way bad people say we're gonna destroy you lol), an agent of change and chaos.
Divergent thought...
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As far as the starborn aspect? Can't protect from yourself.. which is telling to me. He's a child of the stars and he specifically can effect outsiders because of this. The NN physically goes around the planet to about the moon per woj,  so where are the stars? And what does being born to them have to do with outsiders?  Is it the stars that we need look at, or the spaces between them..

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DF Spoilers / Re: Bonnea goes from zero to sixty
« on: April 28, 2024, 08:10:52 PM »
Bonnie is pure knowledge, in order to age as such, she'd need to get it the same way any younger 'old soul' does, through understanding borne of experience..
I mean, kravos got a bit of dresdens understanding and went after Michael's family.
Imagine she has a bit more complete an education..

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DF Spoilers / Re: Carlos and Chandler's mentors
« on: April 23, 2024, 01:18:36 AM »
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Harry has chosen his path, no one walked it for him
I could say much on this topic, I have a fairly evolved tree of theory on it. But my idea for dresden isn't that he's a new being.. but a new identity for an older group of archetypes. A swirl, the easiest I think to see is the similarity of the 7 sins an seven laws. They are unbalanced. Twc's forgiveness saves from sin, but harry... isn't so nice. He'll be more weighty in his jurisdiction.
The above quote sparks such a parallel to Nic saying he is his path... Harry is the one who's really like that. Even with possible TT shenanigans, he's just manipulating his own circumstances to make better choices..

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DF Spoilers / Re: Carlos and Chandler's mentors
« on: April 15, 2024, 05:53:23 AM »
My two cents, my headcanon for Harry's future existence revolves the original m,"conjure by it at your own peril." In reciting his full name. But to do so probably foolish unless it's in his shtick.. is he becomes something conjurable.

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DF Spoilers / Re: Mab Roade with the conquerer
« on: April 05, 2024, 05:04:41 AM »
Before-and-after, for Merlin, is virtually impossible to determine from our information.
it also occurs to me that we don't know if the original merlin... was originally named Merlin. Could be a late game identity (I've always thought so, mostly because I became a role)
Just linearly,  he could have passed time in the NN.. do we know when the white council was actually created? I can't remember any hard evidence other than when Edinburgh was won, is anything before that simply conjecture based on the age of the oldest known wizard ie gatekeeper?

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DF Spoilers / Re: Malcolm gives Harry more to bargain for
« on: March 28, 2024, 02:29:38 AM »
Is he?  Everyone says that yet outside of a few short stories he is the only narrator we've got. So is he a liar? Just stupid? Maybe senile when he wrote his story?  Unless you got an alternative story out there..
s'matter of fact. We can rehash the slipping timelines theory anytime, just be ready to get dirty in there lol.
Oh, and this is a non sequitur I think, it doesn't dispute anything directly nor make any other points... Redirect to the straw man of other theories perhaps?

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What has that to do with anything?  Harry is a starborn, he would be so whether he was an orphan or not.
and what does THAT have to do with anything?
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As far as his names go as Harry explains back in Fool Moon, it isn't the names themselves that would give Chauncy power over him, it is giving him, his names..  Harry was careful even to change the inflection of how to say the names he did give him to try and prevent Chauncy from having power over him..  Didn't matter if his name was John Jinglehimer Smith, or Harry David Copperfield Dresden, it was giving his name or part of his name that gave Chauncy power over him and what he bargained for.
and? You're losing me here. Let's try to stay on the topic of whom could have contributed his names please. Like a mother and father might.🤷‍♂️

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So what if they did? Harry's name in of itself has no power, at least up to this point it hasn't shown itself to have power of any kind or protection.
first you call up the exact point, more names is more insulation and then completely ignore that very simple supposition. The original purposes of naming, not just in the DF, but historically, biblically even. That's part of why it's your Christian name. 👀 So ya don't go giving yourself over to demons.
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Whether Malcolm did or didn't give him those names unilaterally doesn't matter.  The name, Harry, in of itself has no power or protection, nor David, nor Copperfield, nor Dresden, what gives power is that they are his names.
what? I think its happening again where the correlation questions needed asking for clarification instead of jumping to wrong conclusions. None of that is Germain in response.
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Oh I think he was more clued in than you think, at least the importance of the conception, even if he didn't fully understand.  This is hinted at both by Margaret herself during Harry's soul gaze with Thomas in Blood Rites and when Lash begins to tell him about his power over Outsiders in White Night.  It takes two to make a baby, and that's even more important in the case of a star born.

Somebody tell me where I failed to communicate, 1 we cant know the process or causation behind his receiving multiple names but considering the real world connections to the meta verse of the DFs true naming convention its likely someone(s) given him more insulation from being controlled intentionally.
cause I just don't get it man...🤷‍♂️

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DF Spoilers / Re: Malcolm gives Harry more to bargain for
« on: March 27, 2024, 04:58:57 PM »
So are you saying that Jim stole the idea from Star Wars?
pointing out the loosest of tropes existing elsewhere is not 'stealing'. Honestly, the things people focus on...
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Even if he did, Harry was born before the prequels to the original Star Wars trilby came out, the first one 1999.  So yeah, possible, but at the same time unlikely.  Just as likely that Malcolm a vanilla human stage magician would name his son after a well known and I imagine admired stage magicians, Harry Houdini and David Copperfield.  In fact I believe Harry said that back in Storm Front.. Now Malcolm could have lied to him about that, but what would be the point.
Harry the unreliable narrator with a very confusing backstory even without the constant shifts?
Let's jump back to Star wars for the metaphor of chosen Orphan. Did luke know... Anything that was true? Leia what about Rey?
I find it far more likely they named him together, as they were indeed together before her death 👀
I find it fair less likely Malcolm named him unilaterally and just by happenstance gave him the extra protection of names in a verse where such things actually matter.(Something Harry mentioned in storm front, FM, GP, ECT)
I also find it fair more likely anything i say would be disagreed with lmao. I wish when people did that they'd see just how untenable their opinion quickly becomes. Lotta extra waffle when,' i personally disagree" would do just as well.

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DF Spoilers / Re: Malcolm gives Harry more to bargain for
« on: March 26, 2024, 08:45:38 PM »
We know who Harry was named after, but it's actually entirely a logical leap that it was Malcolm who named him at all.. Padme didn't survive child birth and she named her kids.
And since classically the third name itself is a direct result of the 'hidden name's convention', I find it highly unlikely he just happened to get two. Wasn't for bargaining, it's for it's original purposes, protection.

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