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The Dresden Files => DFRPG => Topic started by: Tush Hog on July 26, 2008, 05:07:42 PM
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I've looked and can't find any info on what the overall physical qualities of the rpg is going to be like (could be I just missed it). I realize some of this may be subject to change, but what are you shooting for?
Will the rpg be full color or b/w?
What kind of page count will it have?
What will be the size of the book (digest/full, so forth)?
Anything else you can tell me? ;D
Thanks,
Doug
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I have no part whatsoever in the book's production (I'm just a fellow fan), so take my answer for what it's worth. Fred and Rob were interviewed on the "Independent Insurgency" podcast a while back. They said that the book will probably be 8.5 x 11, with a page count over 400. Chad Underkoffler has written a very detailed guide to characters, place, etc., and this will take up a good chunk of the book. Sounds meaty!
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Full color but with some "embedded' black and white illustrations, done like drawings on the page, etc.
Page count's up in the air.
"full size" hardcover.
That's all I have for you at the moment.
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Sounding more and more fun to me... now I just have to find me a group to start playing with...
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Excellent! Sounds meaty, indeed.
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Is there even a ballpark idea about the price tag? I'm gonna buy it regardless, but I'm curious.
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Is there even a ballpark idea about the price tag? I'm gonna buy it regardless, but I'm curious.
That'll depend on what the costs turn out to be. Since I don't have a page count yet, I don't have the ability to get some quotes from printers that would help me form a concrete answer to that. If it turns out to necessitate a steep price to cover expenses, we'll also investigate ways to provide a more affordable version once the higher priced one sells out, at the least.
But unfortunately for the moment at least that's dark territory I have not mapped.
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Fair enough. That's just about what I figured you'd say.
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Maybe other 'special' versions with higher markups too?
Ye olde leatherbound tome... :)
I know, not really feasible, but boy would that be cool.
I REALLY like that you guys are planning on a hard cover.
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Hee, so about the same size as your typical D&D or WoD sourcebook? Whatever the cost, I am so looking forward to this one.
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Hee, so about the same size as your typical D&D or WoD sourcebook? Whatever the cost, I am so looking forward to this one.
Yeah, though I don't know if that connects in a straight line to their pricing structure. They're able to afford some options we may not be able to. :)
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Yeah, though I don't know if that connects in a straight line to their pricing structure. They're able to afford some options we may not be able to. :)
Are you planning to solicit preorders? Having some revenue in advance might help. Hell, I'd plunk down fifty bucks today for a copy next year if it would help the cause.
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Yeah, though I don't know if that connects in a straight line to their pricing structure. They're able to afford some options we may not be able to. :)
Yeah, WW is able to afford that wonderful binding that falls apart when you look at it too hard.
Maybe it's a good thing that you can't afford their printing method.
(:
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Yeah, WW is able to afford that wonderful binding that falls apart when you look at it too hard.
Maybe it's a good thing that you can't afford their printing method.
(:
Don't know what you've done to your WW books. But mine have taken a beating and are barely even scuffed.
Oh, and a leatherbound DFRPG sourcebook would be devine!
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Don't know what you've done to your WW books. But mine have taken a beating and are barely even scuffed.
Mostly I either have them on my shelf, or on the game table. The spines of most of the hard covers are wonky. I actually had to glue the spine back together for my 1st edition Dragon Blooded book.
In contrast, the covers of the AD&D books I had from the late 70s have rock solid covers. I no longer own them, but I visit them at the local game shop from time to time, and they're still in good shape.
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Hey everyone one if my AD&D books from the 80's are rock solid also.. I just wish some of my other books were in that good of shape
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This may jump the gun a little, since final decisions about book format are still a little in the air, but I wanted to share my experience with SotC.
Fred offered a paperback or hardback option and I chose the hardback one. Best decision I could have made. SotC is pretty thick for its size and I think it would have taken a beating in paperback.
Dresden seems the same way. It's full-size rather than digest-size, but at a page count of 400+ I'd say potential buyers should really consider the hardback.
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Any chance Digital Compies might be made available either in advance or down the line?
Monte Cook put out his massive Ptolus Campaign setting in PDF chunks prior to printing... I purchsed both Digital and Paper copies and use/used both extensively (the digitals make for great travel reading/prepping, which comes in extremely handy as I travel quite a bit... relying on the internet to keep my gaming going). Each PDF was tailor watermarked to the buyer (through Drivethrurpg.com I think it was) to hamper piracy.
Just a thought/wish! ;D
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The product will definitely include digital versions in the release.
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The product will definitely include digital versions in the release.
Do you figure that you'll offer a pdf + dead tree bundle at some sort of discount? I tend not to bother with pdfs except when I get them at little cost so that I can skim them until the dead tree version arrives. It's what I did with DLYM (which was awesome, by the way).
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A leather-bound edition sounds cool, but I think the company'd probably have to stick with regular hardcover.
. . . I'm not sure if this is covered elsewhere, but what kind of dice'll be required; or is it going to be like a larp, with rock-paper-scissors? ;)
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Just peruse Evil Hat's catalog at IPR and you'll get an idea of what our perspective is on Print+PDF bundling. I think you'll be pleased. :)
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A leather-bound edition sounds cool, but I think the company'd probably have to stick with regular hardcover.
. . . I'm not sure if this is covered elsewhere, but what kind of dice'll be required; or is it going to be like a larp, with rock-paper-scissors? ;)
The game will use Evil Hat's FATE rules, which are in turn based on FUDGE. I'm certainly not an expert, but I'd say they were light tabletop rules. The dice are d6 with two '+' faces, two '-' faces. and two blank faces. They're called "FUDGE dice"; you can order them from a variety of places online. You can also just use regular d6 if you read them as d3 and subtract two. Oh, and each player needs four dice.
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You can also use the "Starblazer Method" and roll d6-d6. Gives a +5 to -5 range with more of a swing to it, but it doesn't break the game to do so.
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You can also use the "Starblazer Method" and roll d6-d6. Gives a +5 to -5 range with more of a swing to it, but it doesn't break the game to do so.
Interesting! Will Dresden Files have a default method, or offer different options?
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Honestly? I don't remember. We'll at least forum-suggest other options if we don't get them in the text. But there've been a lot of revisions, and many of them are in my head. :)
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Honestly? I don't remember. We'll at least forum-suggest other options if we don't get them in the text. But there've been a lot of revisions, and many of them are in my head. :)
Ah, you creative types. Just can't stop tinkering, can you? :)
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Be honest, who is going to (besides me) buy the book with no intention of playing, but just to read it and look at the pretty pictures?
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Be honest, who is going to (besides me) buy the book with no intention of playing, but just to read it and look at the pretty pictures?
:: Raises hand::
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I probably will as well, though only because there isn't a group to play with in my area.
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I'll be buying it first, and then looking for someone to play with second. ;D But owning the book is a definite must.
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The 320-page Black Company campaign setting from Green Ronin costs $45, comparable speaking.
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Be honest, who is going to (besides me) buy the book with no intention of playing, but just to read it and look at the pretty pictures?
Oh, I always intend to play... ;)
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Yeah, same here. But I'm a total noob when it comes to tabletop rpg games. Never played a single D&D game in my entire life. I wish I could find some Dresden friendly folk in my area of southern california.
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Yeah, same here. But I'm a total noob when it comes to tabletop rpg games. Never played a single D&D game in my entire life. I wish I could find some Dresden friendly folk in my area of southern california.
I think your best bet will be this website. Once the game is released, there will probably be lots of gamers looking to meet up with one another. In the meantime, how's the roleplaying scene in general where you live? You will likely find D&D gamers easily enough, if that's what you're into. If your tastes run more toward horror, seek out the White Wolf types. Alternatively, there are great gaming message boards all over the Internet.
Good luck!
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Yeah, same here. But I'm a total noob when it comes to tabletop rpg games. Never played a single D&D game in my entire life. I wish I could find some Dresden friendly folk in my area of southern california.
I had this problem when my old gaming group got lives and became scattered across the country. I also found it difficult to look for local gaming groups due to young children. I've been gaming online using a "Virtual Tabletop" (VTT) called Fantasy Grounds. It simulates the tabletop gathering quite nicely (it even has dice to throw). Gaming by typed chat is slower than across the gaming table, but it does tend to make for a better story and roleplaying (written media vs spoken). Some people use Skype or Ventrilo to game, using the VTT to keep the records and share maps etc. There are a number of these on the market (others are Klooge, Battlegrounds RPG, Maptool, GRIP). Have a look around at the forums and see if any of these appeals.
I'm currently running a WitchCraft game using Fantasy Grounds on Sunday evenings at 8pm UK time if you're interested. I'm anxiously waiting for the Dresden RPG to be published. I liked the Spirit of the Century rules and really need to do a ruleset (basically a character sheet, NPC sheet, combat tracker, etc.) so I can use this in Fantasy Grounds for Pulp games.
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Well, when this game gets released we DEFINITELY need to set up a few online games with forum goers, I think it would be a lot of fun.
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Be honest, who is going to (besides me) buy the book with no intention of playing, but just to read it and look at the pretty pictures?
*Raises Hand*
Although I intend to find a group for playing it in my area, before or after - I will still get it.
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Well, when this game gets released we DEFINITELY need to set up a few online games with forum goers, I think it would be a lot of fun.
Yeah, White Wolf has a Java-based chat room (or several of them, I think) for online play. Why not us? :: Grins::
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Yeah, White Wolf has a Java-based chat room (or several of them, I think) for online play. Why not us? :: Grins::
Totally. I'll even go through the task of organizing the darn thing.
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Totally. I'll even go through the task of organizing the darn thing.
Ooh, count me in!!
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Totally. I'll even go through the task of organizing the darn thing.
You, as the kids say today, da man! :)
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I definitely plan to buy it....I have been waiting for it since I have heard about
it...As usual I have all my fingers crossed and my toes that I will have money
in my Butcher Budget....Once I have the book/game? I have never play a RPG or an online game.
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Once I have the book/game? I have never play a RPG or an online game.
It's going to be big, and hopefully not too intimidating. The FATE system runs pretty smoothly, and is definitely "free style" enough where you can customize and make it your own campaign.
If you've never played an RPG before, you might want to give it a try before the "real thing" comes out. You can download FATE 3 (which isn't quite the same as the RPG, but similar in many ways) for free, or could buy Spirit of the Century (same author and similar mechanics) just to see how it plays.
Another game that gets a lot of Dresden-love is Unisystem, which can be found in the form of the Buffy the Vampire Slayer RPG. Similar ideas, lots of TV source material to draw from, and a lot of fun to play.
There are other RPGs out on the market, many as free downloads. I think if you try some of them first you'll find that it's easier to figure out how to play DFRPG. Also, RPGs are a great hobby. I've gotten my wife and kids playing, and it makes for great family togetherness.....
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The 320-page Black Company campaign setting from Green Ronin costs $45, comparable speaking.
Off-Topic:
How is it?
Didnt know there is an Campaing Setting for the Black Company...
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Off-Topic:
How is it?
Didnt know there is an Campaing Setting for the Black Company...
There was only one book put out and it's a D20 system (nothing real fancy). They tried to include a little bit of just about everything from the books in it. The magic system is a little bit different from stock d20, allowing you to shape and create your own magic. It's pretty interesting, but a little bit different to work with from ordinary DnD.