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Re: Maggie's Name
« Reply #30 on: March 04, 2026, 10:11:26 PM »
Quote from: Mira on March 04, 2026, 06:47:32 PM
I think that's comparing apples to oranges, both are fruit, but not the same.
They depend upon the identity of the person.

It's not conclusive, I agree.
But it's indicative.
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Re: Maggie's Name
« Reply #31 on: March 04, 2026, 10:52:25 PM »
I agree. If I understand correctly, human identity changes much than, for example, Mab's identity (Uriel would be an even more extreme example).  In fact, I am wondering if perhaps the Names that Chauncy got for Harry are not so usefur right now.
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Re: Maggie's Name
« Reply #32 on: March 05, 2026, 02:15:36 AM »
Quote from: Dina on March 04, 2026, 10:52:25 PM
I agree. If I understand correctly, human identity changes much than, for example, Mab's identity (Uriel would be an even more extreme example).  In fact, I am wondering if perhaps the Names that Chauncy got for Harry are not so usefur right now.

I suspect that they are:  Harry I think expects so, for one thing.

But also:  everyone who has Soulgazed Harry is still immune to further Soulgaze with him; and Jim has said that someone *can* reset that, and be Soulgazed anew, if they change sufficiently.

My suspicion is that both changes are changes to the Soul -- the core identity.
I doubt we will get clarity unless somebody asks for a WoJ during an AMA event.
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Re: Maggie's Name
« Reply #33 on: March 05, 2026, 01:30:21 PM »
  Truth of the matter, is the truth in the story is what Jim makes it.  Your basic genetics don't change, so basically you are who you are.  Life's experiences are another matter, and I don't think personality is understood very well.  The latter is born out by the cloning of pets, in theory the genes are the same, but the cloned pet doesn't act like the original did.  So tracking spells apparently have little to do with a person's DNA, other factors must be at work.  Also since she is possessed, is Justine the same woman she was before?  So was the attempt to track her doomed from the start?
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Re: Maggie's Name
« Reply #34 on: March 05, 2026, 08:40:47 PM »
That is a very good question.

Genetics remain unchanged but I think there is a chance that the Name of Harry Dresden P.I. is different of the Name of Harry Dresden, Winter Knight. But as you said, it is all up to Jim and we don't have textual evidence for anything. It is just what makes sense for me.
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Re: Maggie's Name
« Reply #35 on: Yesterday at 05:12:57 PM »
Quote from: Dina on March 05, 2026, 08:40:47 PM
That is a very good question.

Genetics remain unchanged but I think there is a chance that the Name of Harry Dresden P.I. is different of the Name of Harry Dresden, Winter Knight. But as you said, it is all up to Jim and we don't have textual evidence for anything. It is just what makes sense for me.

 I think Harry's true name is still his true name whether he is a wizard P.I. or wizard Winter Knight, the reason I say that I remember Harry explaining to Fritz in 12 Months about how careful you have to be not to give up your true name, then he said he has given up all except one.  The only time we've ever seen Harry give up any of his true names was in Fool Moon to Chauncy.  However I don't remember him saying at that time he had only one more left and he wasn't about to give it out.  I only remember that as inticing as Chauncy's offers of information were he wasn't going to give up anymore.  I can't remember him giving up any of his true names since then, but I could be wrong there.
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Re: Maggie's Name
« Reply #36 on: Today at 12:49:58 AM »
I thought he had given "all his names but once" in SF, but I may be wrong. I reread SF many times, but I have not done it in years. So, I think Harry was talking about what happened in SF and that gives no evidence about if those names still work.
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