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Can we see Rudy take up a sword
« on: November 20, 2025, 01:07:43 PM »
The wait for a new owner has been long and has been brought up in multiple books. Here are some reasons it may be the least likeable Dresden verse character.
1. Shiro became a Christian because he wanted to see Elvis. Sanya used to follow the nickleheads. Butters is a jew. So obviously left field wieldeders is not unheard of.
2. Rudy has been around since the beginning. He was introduced before just about anybody besides Murphy. There has to be a reason.
3. It would be an interesting choice since its the sword of Love. Considering what happened in Battleground.
4. Jim loves making Harry's life difficult.

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Re: Can we see Rudy take up a sword
« Reply #1 on: November 20, 2025, 01:09:41 PM »
The wait for a new owner has been long and has been brought up in multiple books. Here are some reasons it may be the least likeable Dresden verse character.
1. Shiro became a Christian because he wanted to see Elvis. Sanya used to follow the nickleheads. Butters is a jew. So obviously left field wieldeders is not unheard of.
2. Rudy has been around since the beginning. He was introduced before just about anybody besides Murphy. There has to be a reason.
3. It would be an interesting choice since its the sword of Love. Considering what happened in Battleground.
4. Jim loves making Harry's life difficult.

Maybe, but that gets old after a while, making Harry's life difficult can't be just for the sake of. 

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Re: Can we see Rudy take up a sword
« Reply #2 on: November 22, 2025, 12:24:02 AM »
The wait for a new owner has been long and has been brought up in multiple books. Here are some reasons it may be the least likeable Dresden verse character.
1. Shiro became a Christian because he wanted to see Elvis. Sanya used to follow the nickleheads. Butters is a jew. So obviously left field wieldeders is not unheard of.
2. Rudy has been around since the beginning. He was introduced before just about anybody besides Murphy. There has to be a reason.
3. It would be an interesting choice since its the sword of Love. Considering what happened in Battleground.
4. Jim loves making Harry's life difficult.

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Re: Can we see Rudy take up a sword
« Reply #3 on: November 22, 2025, 08:52:35 AM »
The wait for a new owner has been long and has been brought up in multiple books. Here are some reasons it may be the least likeable Dresden verse character.
1. Shiro became a Christian because he wanted to see Elvis. Sanya used to follow the nickleheads. Butters is a jew. So obviously left field wieldeders is not unheard of.
2. Rudy has been around since the beginning. He was introduced before just about anybody besides Murphy. There has to be a reason.
3. It would be an interesting choice since its the sword of Love. Considering what happened in Battleground.
4. Jim loves making Harry's life difficult.

Is this rage bait?
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Re: Can we see Rudy take up a sword
« Reply #4 on: November 22, 2025, 01:12:33 PM »
Its not rage bait. There has to be a reason he's been in so many storylines. Seriously, how many times has he been there to mess things up. How many books has he been in where he did the worst thing at the time but somehow escapes with no consequences. He even got promotions. Since book 1 he's been there.
1. Donald Morgan, dead
2. Murphy, dead
3. Bianca, dead
4. Carmichael, dead
5. Susan, dead
6. Marcone is alive.
Most of the characters in that book are dead. The rest have at some point helped Harry at some point. There has to be a reason. Do I despise Rudy? He might be one of my least favorite characters EVER.

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Re: Can we see Rudy take up a sword
« Reply #5 on: November 23, 2025, 08:05:52 PM »
Its not rage bait. There has to be a reason he's been in so many storylines. Seriously, how many times has he been there to mess things up. How many books has he been in where he did the worst thing at the time but somehow escapes with no consequences. He even got promotions. Since book 1 he's been there.
1. Donald Morgan, dead
2. Murphy, dead
3. Bianca, dead
4. Carmichael, dead
5. Susan, dead
6. Marcone is alive.
Most of the characters in that book are dead. The rest have at some point helped Harry at some point. There has to be a reason. Do I despise Rudy? He might be one of my least favorite characters EVER. 

Narratively-speaking, I think Rudolph is beyond redemption; he is incapable of wielding a Sword.  But (also narratively-speaking) I think you may be onto something -- he's got remarkable longevity, given the threat-level going on.

It's possible he's only still there to provide someone to fully-despise and disdain; a full-on "villain" but not a serious "threat."

My own theory is that he's eventually going to be a thread that Harry can tug on, that will lead deep into  BBEG plotting.

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Re: Can we see Rudy take up a sword
« Reply #6 on: November 24, 2025, 02:26:48 AM »
I think that speculation makes sense, that Rudolph has a bigger role here than's been revealed yet.  The name 'Rudolph' is Germanic and means 'famous wolf' or 'glory wolf.'  Any famous wolfs in mythology?  Particularly Germanic?  Possible that Rudolph is Loki in disguise?

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Re: Can we see Rudy take up a sword
« Reply #7 on: November 24, 2025, 05:28:57 AM »
I can't see him as Loki. Not really his style. Also, to hide from Harry this long would be a major thing. He would have to escaped soul gaze, 3rd eye drug and Odin.

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Re: Can we see Rudy take up a sword
« Reply #8 on: November 24, 2025, 03:58:48 PM »
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Narratively-speaking, I think Rudolph is beyond redemption; he is incapable of wielding a Sword.  But (also narratively-speaking) I think you may be onto something -- he's got remarkable longevity, given the threat-level going on.

It's possible he's only still there to provide someone to fully-despise and disdain; a full-on "villain" but not a serious "threat."

My own theory is that he's eventually going to be a thread that Harry can tug on, that will lead deep into  BBEG plotting.

I also agree that Rudolph is beyond redemption, however at some point Harry may find that in order to move on and do what needs to be done in the BAT he will have to forgive him for killing Murphy.  I don't think Rudolph is full on evil, just ignorant and when he killed Murphy insane from fear.

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Re: Can we see Rudy take up a sword
« Reply #9 on: November 24, 2025, 05:01:08 PM »
... and when he killed Murphy insane from fear.
TBH, I think that was just Rudy being incredibly stupid, and with abysmal trigger-discipline.

He didn't mean to shoot, he was just "twitchy," had his finger on the trigger when he shouldn't have... and twitched at the wrong moment.

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Re: Can we see Rudy take up a sword
« Reply #10 on: November 24, 2025, 09:07:12 PM »
TBH, I think that was just Rudy being incredibly stupid, and with abysmal trigger-discipline.

He didn't mean to shoot, he was just "twitchy," had his finger on the trigger when he shouldn't have... and twitched at the wrong moment.
I think most of us agree he is not evil per se. I think it can be worse, the banality of evil comes to mind. But that is not what I want to say. I wanted to post that I do not think he is Loki or anyone doing what he did on purpose, because of the light saber a.k.a.  Fidelacchius. It would have probably accepted that Harry was not a monster if he tried to go against a supernatural or evildoer like Loki. It knew Harry was overreacting and that is why it hurt him.

Even when I do not think Rudy is random evil in disguise, I have not discarded the idea that he could have been under some kind of magical influence, like an entropy curse or something like that. I can see JB creating a sort of reverse Felix Felicis, just to have some fun with the fans of that other wizard called Harry.

Lots of forces act around Harry all the time. Some of them, he can control and even create but most of them, he cannot.
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Re: Can we see Rudy take up a sword
« Reply #11 on: November 24, 2025, 10:39:39 PM »
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He didn't mean to shoot, he was just "twitchy," had his finger on the trigger when he shouldn't have... and twitched at the wrong moment.

Yes, of course, but he was also in full panic mode brought on by paranoia based on what was happening around him. 

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TBH, I think that was just Rudy being incredibly stupid, and with abysmal trigger-discipline.

Not good for a police officer in the best of times, but that moment was hardly normal, and given the context in which the event happened and Rudy's reactions, he would of shot off his own big toe if it twitched because of his state of mind

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Even when I do not think Rudy is random evil in disguise, I have not discarded the idea that he could have been under some kind of magical influence, like an entropy curse or something like that. I can see JB creating a sort of reverse Felix Felicis, just to have some fun with the fans of that other wizard called Harry.

I tend to agree with you, though I think Rudy suffers from paranoia.  Paranoid people see threats everywhere, many not in the least rational.  The kicker is good luck with trying to convince them that what they fear isn't a threat.  In a normal world Rudy may have been able to continue and function pretty well as a police officer, but Harry's world isn't normal, he totally cracked and Murphy paid the price with her life.  The future question will be I think is whether or not his fellow officers or the court can spot his paranoia, believe me it isn't as easy as you might think it is.
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Re: Can we see Rudy take up a sword
« Reply #12 on: Today at 01:09:03 PM »
Rudolph would have to have some incredible character growth to be viable as a candidate to wield a sword.
maybe if the plot demands another sword needs to be broken, he'll get to use one...