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Mira:

--- Quote ---For that to happen,  Marcone will have to take Sanya's route and give up his coin.  There's already a Jewish Knight and an agnostic Knight, but I don't think Jim would propose for anyone to hold a coin and a sword at the same time, even temporarily.
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  Why not a former gangster Knight who has learned how to be a wizard?  Not impossible, of course Marcone would have to give up his coin, if he got disgusted enough he might. Marcone is a gangster, but he still has a smidge of conscience, he feels guilt for that little girl that got wounded because of him.  He also must have some faith deep down, remember he wanted the Shroud in hope that it had the power to cure the girl.

g33k:

--- Quote from: Mira on September 09, 2025, 03:59:12 AM ---  Why not a former gangster Knight who has learned how to be a wizard?  Not impossible, of course Marcone would have to give up his coin, if he got disgusted enough he might. Marcone is a gangster, but he still has a smidge of conscience, he feels guilt for that little girl that got wounded because of him.  He also must have some faith deep down, remember he wanted the Shroud in hope that it had the power to cure the girl. 
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Gentleman Johnny also very very very much wishes to be his Own Man.
And that is fundamentally impossible for a KotBD hosting one of the Fallen.

But the un-Fallen?  They are all about that Mortal Free Will.

If John ever comes to understand that, he'd flip sides in an instant.  Of course, it'd take... errr... some "other changes," let's say... for him to become eligible to become a KotC!

Mira:

--- Quote ---Gentleman Johnny also very very very much wishes to be his Own Man.
And that is fundamentally impossible for a KotBD hosting one of the Fallen.

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Yes, he does like to be his own man and also likes his power and his own little empire.  Namshiel will have to manage him so that Marcone believes he is calling the shots.  This basically is what Andriel has done with Nic, he buys that it is an equal partnership. Something Harry never bought when Lasciel offered it, but will Marcone see through it?


--- Quote ---But the un-Fallen?  They are all about that Mortal Free Will.
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However the holder of Marcone's coin is one of the Fallen and really doesn't give a damn about his host's free will. 

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If John ever comes to understand that, he'd flip sides in an instant.  Of course, it'd take... errr... some "other changes," let's say... for him to become eligible to become a KotC!

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Anything is possible, Sanya was a Communist atheist and ultimately gave up his coin and became a KotC.

g33k:

--- Quote from: Mira on September 10, 2025, 03:52:27 AM --- ... Anything is possible, Sanya was a Communist atheist and ultimately gave up his coin and became a KotC. 
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Erm... apparently, Sanya still is a Communist atheist who's also a KotC.

Though when pressed, he admits he's more agnostic than atheist.

And of course he protests he's a Marxist, not a Communist.

Mira:

--- Quote ---Erm... apparently, Sanya still is a Communist atheist who's also a KotC.

Though when pressed, he admits he's more agnostic than atheist.

And of course he protests he's a Marxist, not a Communist.

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Or if it walks like a duck..... Or Sanya plays lip service to it for his own reasons, but the Almighty and the angel in charge of his Sword knows what is really in his heart.  I suspect the latter..

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