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Talby16:

--- Quote from: Mira on May 28, 2025, 01:38:15 PM ---  I see that soul gaze struggle between Thomas and himself as a struggle for his soul.  His vanilla human half struggling to remain human and his demon wanting to take over..  I think all of human Thomas will remain if the demon is removed, but we saw that image also in the soul gaze.  A slight human with glasses, physically more like Butters than the physical hunk he has been all of his life.  The question then becomes, can Thomas deal with being a mere ordinary vanilla human?

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That is an excellent question. Thomas may hate his demon, but does he comprehend who he will be without it? Gone are the good looks and the perfect skin. No more super strength or endurance. Thomas will not be able to help his brother in the same way that he is accustomed to. He has said that he wishes his demon gone, but has he lived to long with it to fully enjoy life without it?

Mira:

--- Quote ---That is an excellent question. Thomas may hate his demon, but does he comprehend who he will be without it? Gone are the good looks and the perfect skin. No more super strength or endurance. Thomas will not be able to help his brother in the same way that he is accustomed to. He has said that he wishes his demon gone, but has he lived to long with it to fully enjoy life without it?

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Lara understands that, and loves what she is, accepts what she is.. Thomas hadn't fully until the Skinwalker got a hold of him.
Thomas changed and seemingly made a choice, interesting scene at the zoo at the end of Turncoat.  Harry appalled because Thomas told him he enjoyed what he was doing after a while.  Actually Lara was delighted with that outcome and didn't want Harry messing with Thomas on that score..

We never got to see that struggle for the heart and mind of Thomas between Lara and Harry.  Or Harry having to come to grips that his brother was now no different from other vampires now.  I was disappointed that we didn't.

Talby16:

--- Quote from: Mira on May 29, 2025, 12:59:09 PM ---Lara understands that, and loves what she is, accepts what she is.. Thomas hadn't fully until the Skinwalker got a hold of him.
Thomas changed and seemingly made a choice, interesting scene at the zoo at the end of Turncoat.  Harry appalled because Thomas told him he enjoyed what he was doing after a while.  Actually Lara was delighted with that outcome and didn't want Harry messing with Thomas on that score..

We never got to see that struggle for the heart and mind of Thomas between Lara and Harry.  Or Harry having to come to grips that his brother was now no different from other vampires now.  I was disappointed that we didn't.

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I agree that Turncoat brought about a change for Thomas, but we still see glimpses of who he was before that book. His relationship with Justine being a prime example. If he had truly gone all the way back into the fold and become a "good little vampire" then he should have kicked Justine to the curb and gone to disposable lovers.

Mira:

--- Quote from: Talby16 on May 29, 2025, 03:14:21 PM --- I agree that Turncoat brought about a change for Thomas, but we still see glimpses of who he was before that book. His relationship with Justine being a prime example. If he had truly gone all the way back into the fold and become a "good little vampire" then he should have kicked Justine to the curb and gone to disposable lovers.

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  I understand that, and that is what I find disappointing!  We never saw that developmental progress in Thomas!  I would have loved to have seen Thomas as a full hard assed predator for at least one full book, and Harry and Justine trying to deal with that! 

Talby16:

--- Quote from: Mira on May 30, 2025, 11:50:48 AM ---  I understand that, and that is what I find disappointing!  We never saw that developmental progress in Thomas!  I would have loved to have seen Thomas as a full hard assed predator for at least one full book, and Harry and Justine trying to deal with that!

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Maybe we can get a short story along the lines of what you said or maybe he has to pretend to be the full predator to throw Lara off his scent and we could still get a glimpse of the White Court nightlife.

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