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The Erl King a Vassal of Winter?
g33k:
--- Quote from: Mira on March 25, 2025, 12:44:52 PM ---So far he seems to play a minor role.. I remember him vaguely, if he is a sort of "King of Summer," then you'd think he'd have had more of a role than the Lady or even the Knight in Harry's adventures, but he doesn't, not on page anyway... That isn't to say he won't in the future. In my opinion he is more of an independent and has his own agenda.
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He isn't part of Titania's court, per se... he's just more summerfae than winterfae.
He's a "king" in the sense of being monarch of his own court (i.e. the goblins); and you're right, he's an "independent."
Taken together, though... this makes him (in some ways) a "Summer King."
He's also the default Huntsman (leader of the Wild Hunt; but I think that's something different from his kingship: someone else can lead the Hunt without becoming king of the Goblins.
g33k:
--- Quote from: SerScot on March 24, 2025, 01:36:53 PM ---When did that happen. In Dead Beat he was “Wild Fae”. Did something change or did Mr. Butcher change his mind?
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Where is that passage?
I'd have to re-read it. Off the top of my head, though: I might suspect it was just a battle-order sort of thing, allowing for Mab to have ultimate field-command of all Fae forces.
SerScot:
--- Quote from: g33k on March 25, 2025, 01:33:50 PM ---Where is that passage?
I'd have to re-read it. Off the top of my head, though: I might suspect it was just a battle-order sort of thing, allowing for Mab to have ultimate field-command of all Fae forces.
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It was in the general discussion in Dead Beat regarding the EK. And it was explicitly stated in Battle Ground (during the discussion with EK and Vadderrung before the big fighting starts that EK is Winter Fae.
g33k:
--- Quote from: SerScot on March 25, 2025, 05:54:16 PM ---It was in the general discussion in Dead Beat regarding the EK.
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I think he's "Wild Fae" in the sense of "not technically owing allegiance to either Summer or Winter Courts. The Erlking is his own sovereign monarch.
--- Quote from: SerScot on March 25, 2025, 05:54:16 PM --- .... And it was explicitly stated in Battle Ground (during the discussion with EK and Vadderrung before the big fighting starts that EK is Winter Fae.
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That's the bit where I need to track the exact language, and context; they might have just been talking about field-command and battle arrays, not overall mystic politics.
Similarly for the opening night of _Peace Talks_, before Ethniu arrives: was Erl there at the talks? Did he have his own separate "contingent," or was he attached to Mab's group?
SerScot:
--- Quote from: g33k on March 25, 2025, 08:07:46 PM ---I think he's "Wild Fae" in the sense of "not technically owing allegiance to either Summer or Winter Courts. The Erlking is his own sovereign monarch.
That's the bit where I need to track the exact language, and context; they might have just been talking about field-command and battle arrays, not overall mystic politics.
Similarly for the opening night of _Peace Talks_, before Ethniu arrives: was Erl there at the talks? Did he have his own separate "contingent," or was he attached to Mab's group?
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The Erl King doesn’t appear in Peace Talks only in Battle Ground
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