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How did Vadderrung miss the Fomor’s alliance with the Titan?

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SerScot:
Information and knowledge is what he is… what he does… how did he miss something that huge?

g33k:

--- Quote from: SerScot on March 21, 2025, 07:20:15 PM ---Information and knowledge is what he is… what he does… how did he miss something that huge?
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4 things, I suspect:

1/ The fomor were doing the "underwater" (& likely "deep sea") thing, which gives a tremendous amount of inherent stealth; and, presumably, the fomor had some other non-trivial stealthy-powers themselves.

2/ Ethniu is an Odin-caliber being herself, and likely could offset most of Odin's "infosec" methods.
 
3/ I suspect they put it all together relativey fast, to have minimal time for people to screw-up and let things slip.

4/ Last but not (at all!) least, "Nemesis" has incredible stealth-powers, and the Outsider-assault simultaneous with Ethniu's ultimatum suggests the fomor may also have gotten some help on their "stay below the radar" efforts.

SerScot:

--- Quote from: g33k on March 21, 2025, 10:08:12 PM ---4 things, I suspect:

1/ The fomor were doing the "underwater" (& likely "deep sea") thing, which gives a tremendous amount of inherent stealth; and, presumably, the fomor had some other non-trivial stealthy-powers themselves.

2/ Ethniu is an Odin-caliber being herself, and likely could offset most of Odin's "infosec" methods.
 
3/ I suspect they put it all together relativey fast, to have minimal time for people to screw-up and let things slip.

4/ Last but not (at all!) least, "Nemesis" has incredible stealth-powers, and the Outsider-assault simultaneous with Ethniu's ultimatum suggests the fomor may also have gotten some help on their "stay below the radar" efforts.

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The details… sure… but complete tactical and strategic surprise?  It’s very difficult to believe that old one eye had no idea the Fomor Peace Conference was a complete ruise.  That’s what he would be looking for.  That’s one of the things he originally sacrificed his eye to gain… access… to knowledge actively concealed.

Mira:

--- Quote from: SerScot on March 21, 2025, 11:35:43 PM ---
The details… sure… but complete tactical and strategic surprise?  It’s very difficult to believe that old one eye had no idea the Fomor Peace Conference was a complete ruise.  That’s what he would be looking for.  That’s one of the things he originally sacrificed his eye to gain… access… to knowledge actively concealed.

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I remember vaguely and have to go back and reread that Vadderung acted a bit detached, I don't think he expected to get sucked into it..

SerScot:

--- Quote from: Mira on March 22, 2025, 11:06:35 AM ---I remember vaguely and have to go back and reread that Vadderung acted a bit detached, I don't think he expected to get sucked into it..

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I just finished a re-read of Peace Talks.  Vadderrung was surprised.

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