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Mira:

--- Quote from: EBRIEN on February 23, 2025, 07:49:52 PM ---I'm curious how long Lord Raith's Outsider magic immunity continues once Harry digs into the Raith household and library of the arcane. His mind is probably close to gone at this point, but magically, he's probably still immune.

Perhaps Mab is tracing the Outside connection. ??? We shall see.

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That might be what Mab wants to get at, if anyone can get to the bottom of things it will be Harry. 

g33k:

--- Quote from: EBRIEN on February 23, 2025, 07:49:52 PM ---I'm curious how long Lord Raith's Outsider magic immunity continues once Harry digs into the Raith household and library of the arcane. His mind is probably close to gone at this point, but magically, he's probably still immune.

Perhaps Mab is tracing the Outside connection. ??? We shall see.
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There's Papa Raith's immunity, Vitto's Outsider-summoning (that disabled dozens of potent Earthly minds),
and the fact that Justine seemingly got Nemfected from hanging around Lara (and thus, Raith's Outsider Library) ... once (they say) is bad luck; twice is a coincidence; three times is enemy action.

The Outsiders have deeply-infiltrated the Whampires.

Mab is tossing a Dresden Grenade into that bunker.

Mira:

--- Quote from: g33k on February 27, 2025, 03:06:29 PM ---There's Papa Raith's immunity, Vitto's Outsider-summoning (that disabled dozens of potent Earthly minds),
and the fact that Justine seemingly got Nemfected from hanging around Lara (and thus, Raith's Outsider Library) ... once (they say) is bad luck; twice is a coincidence; three times is enemy action.

The Outsiders have deeply-infiltrated the Whampires.

Mab is tossing a Dresden Grenade into that bunker.

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I concur with this theory..  It fits with my theory that Justine had been infested from the beginning.  Lord Raith knows full well who the half brother of Thomas is, he may even know what Harry is, so Justine infected thrown together with Thomas as a way to control him.  Also knowing that Thomas and Harry will get together at some point so eventually a way to get at Harry.  And as we saw at the end of Battleground it almost worked.

LordDresden2:

--- Quote from: g33k on February 27, 2025, 03:06:29 PM ---There's Papa Raith's immunity, Vitto's Outsider-summoning (that disabled dozens of potent Earthly minds),
and the fact that Justine seemingly got Nemfected from hanging around Lara (and thus, Raith's Outsider Library) ... once (they say) is bad luck; twice is a coincidence; three times is enemy action.

The Outsiders have deeply-infiltrated the Whampires.



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Have they?  Or were the White Vampires always closely tied up with the Outsiders?

Remember that a favorite swear term among them is 'Empty Night'.  IIRC, that's the title of the last book in the series, too.  Harry and Elaine picked up 'stars and stones' from Justin, and IIRC Ebenezar at one point rebuked Harry for using it, too.  Justin and Margaret were mixed up with the Court, too.

I wonder if the phages themselves are some kind of outsider.

LordDresden2:

--- Quote from: Mira on February 27, 2025, 05:34:24 PM ---I concur with this theory..  It fits with my theory that Justine had been infested from the beginning.  Lord Raith knows full well who the half brother of Thomas is, he may even know what Harry is, so Justine infected thrown together with Thomas as a way to control him.  Also knowing that Thomas and Harry will get together at some point so eventually a way to get at Harry.  And as we saw at the end of Battleground it almost worked.

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My only problem with that idea is that it has a lot of moving parts that have to play out just right.  Sort of like the theory that Martin wanted Harry and Susan to get together in Death Masks.

Yeah, LR, Lara, Nicodemus, Marcone, Mab, Martin, etc. are all chessmasters, but there are still limits to how far ahead they can calculate and how many moving parts they can juggle.  If Justine has been nemfected all along, that would mean lots of opportunities for someone to detect it.  Suppose a rival WV offs Thomas and claims Justine?  Suppose some circumstance forced her to handle a Sword?  If Harry is her target in LR's plot, suppose he happens to be with Rashid at some point when she's near him?

That's a lot of variables that he just can't control.

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