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Yuillegan:
Firstly, its been a while since I have posted so it's good to be back.

Secondly, great to see some more information coming from Jim! While Twelve Months is unlikely to be published this year, I am hopeful that we might get it as early as next year.

Now, to the information from Dragon Con.

Drakul
"He found Kemmler funny". Which should tell us all we need to know about how evil Drakul is, right there. If Mab thought Kemmler was insane, it really shows how dark Drakul must be.

"Kemmler spoiled some of his [Drakul's] plans but nothing serious...he [Drakul] found all the murder funny". Given how much impact Kemmler has had on things e.g. the only two World Wars in recorded history, the fact that he successfully sustained a war on the White Council for over a century and it likely took the largest Nuke ever to defeat him (which I know contradicts the whole thing about locking his magic down and chainsawing him and burning him BUT it also literally happened the same day in the same location...), and the fact Kemmler tried to become a dark god (and so did his disciples later, presumably to continue his plan-ish) and begin some sort of New World Order type-of-deal - the sheer fact that it barely disrupted Drakul and he found his antics merely amusing, really shows how endgame, dangerous and outright terrible Drakul's plans are. He is playing a long-game in the same way Vadderung is - and I wonder if they were peers, after a fashion, in the old, old days.

The Fallen
"How did the Fall happen if Fallen Angels don't have Free Will?" The Fallen had a chance but abused it, and so the Creator "went in another direction" which might suggest he bound all the non-Fallen thereafter (although it is implied Uriel could Fall, which suggests that all non-Fallen still have that one Choice). But interesting that the Creator didn't see it coming, or did but couldn't stop it, or did see it coming but allowed it to happen anyway. That's more of a philosophical one though.

Mab
Her story is tied up with Merlin's (the original character from the Arthurian legends). Which really only leaves two characters: Nimue and Morganna Le Fay. My guess is the latter and that Nimue/Vivian was simply Mab's predecessor. Particularly given that Mab had Morganna's Athame.

Bob
Bob's skull is the skull of the person who died to "birth" him. Given that spirits like Bob are created by a combination of a spirit-being and a mortal, we can only assume the skull was once a mortal's. Mab is the strongest candidate for his mother, but it doesn't leave many options. Old WOJ states it was a wizard called Etienne the Enchanter who made the skull, but this appears to have been retconned as Jim has said we have met Bob's parents.

Thoughts?

Mira:

--- Quote ---"He found Kemmler funny". Which should tell us all we need to know about how evil Drakul is, right there. If Mab thought Kemmler was insane, it really shows how dark Drakul must be.

--- End quote ---

 That is a very interesting comment.  Since Kemmler was into necromancy, or bringing the dead back to life, and Drakul is into bringing the dead back, but still dead.. That is if I understand correctly what both were doing, which I might not be, but one difference is I think Drakul still controls his undead vampires, I don't know that that is true of Kemmler. I don't think it was, or I don't remember Kumori saying that he did.   If for argument's sake Kemmler didn't control those he brought back I'd see where Drakul would think that was hilarious, as in, "what's the point?" 

On the Fallen, in my opinion Angels have always had free will, however as Angels there are rules they have to live by.  God calls the shots, not them even though they are powerful in their own right.  I think that's what Uriel was trying to explain to Harry, he has immense power but isn't so arrogant as to put himself as equal or more powerful than God.  He is free maybe to try it, but if he does, he will fall.  Yeah, the Creator didn't see it coming, because He couldn't conceive of any angel not understanding that.  We are running into that kind of thing a lot these days, stuff that clearly is ethically wrong, but there are no written rules against.  Why because back in the beginning those writing the rules thought it so plain and self evident that they couldn't see anyone in that position doing that unethical thing. 

I think in the case of Bob, since what he lives in is a skull, it did belong to a mortal who is now dead.. Or at least the body was mortal.

KurtinStGeorge:
Perhaps Etienne the Enchanter was the mortal wizard who knew how to make the skull of the mortal who involuntarily gave birth to Bob, into a vessel Bob could permanently live in.  So no retcon needed.  Bob can possess a mortal or hide inside an inanimate object aside from his skull; we've seen that in an early novel, but I'm guessing there is some magic involved in making the skull something beyond a temporary hiding place.  Just like Harry didn't simply carve a wooden skull for Bonea, he used his magic to make that wooden skull into a home.  Though now that I think about it, Harry originally made that skull as a backup for Bob. 

We might or might not get Bob's full back story, but it's possible Etienne the Enchanter knew Bob's father before he died.  I wonder why it might become relevant for Harry to ask Bob about Bob's parents?  Answering my own question, perhaps Harry will want or need to understand what Bonea knows about Lashiel and Lash.  Does Bonnea just have the knowledge both Lash and Lashiel had or does Bonnea have deeper knowledge of who Lashiel and Lash are / were?  Even if Bonnea doesn't have the experience to understand this knowledge.  In this situation I could see Harry asking Bob what he knows about his mortal and spirit parent to give Harry a better understanding of Bonea.     

Mira:

--- Quote ---Perhaps Etienne the Enchanter was the mortal wizard who knew how to make the skull of the mortal who involuntarily gave birth to Bob, into a vessel Bob could permanently live in.  So no retcon needed.  Bob can possess a mortal or hide inside an inanimate object aside from his skull; we've seen that in an early novel, but I'm guessing there is some magic involved in making the skull something beyond a temporary hiding place.  Just like Harry didn't simply carve a wooden skull for Bonea, he used his magic to make that wooden skull into a home.  Though now that I think about it, Harry originally made that skull as a backup for Bob.

--- End quote ---

I don't remember Harry saying he used magic to carve the skull.  Though we know from Ghost Story that the inside of Bob's skull home is very much a home, more like the TARDIS of DR WHO, bigger inside than outside.  However does Harry even know what kind of magic is needed to create that?  Though since it was originally made for Bob, I can see him giving Harry step by step instructions on how it is done.

g33k:

--- Quote from: Mira on September 13, 2024, 01:16:18 PM --- ... the inside of Bob's skull home is very much a home, more like the TARDIS of DR WHO, bigger inside than outside ...
--- End quote ---

The physical space is irrelevant, though.  The "space" inside Bob's skull isn't "space" but a connection to (what I suspect is) a demesne within the Nevernever.

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