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The Soul Gaze in Blood Rites, Something Margaret Said to Harry About Justine..
g33k:
--- Quote from: Mira on November 26, 2024, 03:15:05 PM ---I think you underestimate the Hunger Demon.
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AFAIK, no "Hunger Demon" has ever been shown to take more than one victim in a single feeding.
Blampires & Rampires both seem to actually relish bloodshed, readily killing multiples at once. I think the "blood reserve" in the Rampire's abdomen might actually be able to store up to 2-3 people's blood; but no more (otoh, they seem to use it up magically, not just metabolically; so if exerting themselves on a sustained basis might go through many more per day... but then, so too do Whampires' exertions cause increased demand).
I'm unclear about the precise mechanisms of Blampires' psychic / magic / physical "need" to kill... do they actually eat their prey? Do they need the blood they take (to survive? to thrive? to avoid quiescent vamp-coma)? Do they need to kill, or could they take a pint a day from a large donor-group with no major impact (but just don't want to)? Is it just the twisted-undead version of a reproductive urge? Or what??!?
But my point is: Whamps don't seem to do the large-scale massacres that Ramps & Blamps do; they mostly only need to dispose of one corpse at a time, and usually only feed-to-death in extremis (out of control)... though there are exceptions (Madeline comes to mind, I think she killed readily; and I think the Skavis/Malvora "usual" feeding was to death).
Mira:
--- Quote ---AFAIK, no "Hunger Demon" has ever been shown to take more than one victim in a single feeding.
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So? ??? One at a time, they add up... And with the power and super quickness of a vampire along uberurges of the Hunger Demon, and damn... There could be bodies all over the place.. :o
--- Quote ---Blampires & Rampires both seem to actually relish bloodshed, readily killing multiples at once. I think the "blood reserve" in the Rampire's abdomen might actually be able to store up to 2-3 people's blood; but no more (otoh, they seem to use it up magically, not just metabolically; so if exerting themselves on a sustained basis might go through many more per day... but then, so too do Whampires' exertions cause increased demand).
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Hunger Demon is a little different..
--- Quote ---I'm unclear about the precise mechanisms of Blampires' psychic / magic / physical "need" to kill... do they actually eat their prey? Do they need the blood they take (to survive? to thrive? to avoid quiescent vamp-coma)? Do they need to kill, or could they take a pint a day from a large donor-group with no major impact (but just don't want to)? Is it just the twisted-undead version of a reproductive urge? Or what??!?
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Again that doesn't seem to be how the Hunger Demon works..
--- Quote ---But my point is: Whamps don't seem to do the large-scale massacres that Ramps & Blamps do; they mostly only need to dispose of one corpse at a time, and usually only feed-to-death in extremis (out of control)... though there are exceptions (Madeline comes to mind, I think she killed readily; and I think the Skavis/Malvora "usual" feeding was to death).
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Doesn't have to be mass killing to do damage to the Winter Court or Mab, killing one is enough, if it is the wrong one that is killed.
Dina:
Mira, I really not think that Thomas is powerful enough to kill Mab. Also, remember the sex scene of Harry accepting the job is something...mystical, i don't know. Harry did not have physical sex with Mab, I think. His body was still laying with a broken back. So I imagine if Thomas would be accepted as Winter Knight, his seduction powers and hunger would be irrelevant, because his demon would not be really touching Mab's body.
Mira:
--- Quote from: Dina on November 26, 2024, 10:27:54 PM ---Mira, I really not think that Thomas is powerful enough to kill Mab. Also, remember the sex scene of Harry accepting the job is something...mystical, i don't know. Harry did not have physical sex with Mab, I think. His body was still laying with a broken back. So I imagine if Thomas would be accepted as Winter Knight, his seduction powers and hunger would be irrelevant, because his demon would not be really touching Mab's body.
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I have to go back and reread, but I think Harry did have physical sex with Mab, the way I remember it his back was fixed as soon as he agreed to become her Knight. However you could be right that wasn't physical, I just don't remember it that way.
The Hunger Demon never touches any body, it feeds through the host.
Dina:
--- Quote from: Mira on November 26, 2024, 10:52:29 PM ---The Hunger Demon never touches any body, it feeds through the host.
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True, but still, Thomas would not be really touching Mab. At least, that is what I think. I have been arguing for years that Mab could not have Harry's baby because they do not do real physical sex.
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