The Dresden Files > DF Spoilers
We gotta talk about Margaret LeFay
g33k:
--- Quote from: LordDresden2 on July 18, 2024, 05:41:13 AM ---I believe JB has said that Thomas is Harry's only siblings, though I can't recall exactly where.
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You are correct:
--- Quote ---Q: Do Harry and Thomas have any other siblings out there?
A: NO
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-- https://wordof.jim-butcher.com/index.php/word-of-jim-woj-compilation/woj-on-harrys-family/
(quoted from "Some 2008 booksigning pulled off of youtube" (but the link is dead))
--- Quote from: LordDresden2 on July 18, 2024, 05:41:13 AM ---Nicodemus' words to Harry back in the day hinted that there might be others, he referred to Harry as Margaret's 'youngest' rather than 'younger', but that's hardly proof of anything. Of course it's possibly in theory that Margaret could have had kids when she was much younger, who never studied magic and died of old age before Harry and Thomas were born. But I don't consider that at all probable
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Agreed; technically possible, but improbable; and even if true virtually-certain to not be relevant (as such, Jim could well retcon it to be "true" just so some badguy could toss it under Harry's nose as a red herring)
Mira:
--- Quote from: g33k on July 20, 2024, 12:15:37 AM ---The date(s) may be off a bit; but the fact that (as per the OP's query) Maggie Sr's mother is firmly fixed as a mortal woman.
AFAIK Eb's parents (and all the rest of the Senior Council) are entirely un-addressed in either canonical stories or WoJ's. Jim may -- or may not -- have some "Meaningful Revelations" for us, there... :o
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I didn't say Margaret's mother wasn't a mortal, just that the date of Margaret's birth from the other information we have seems way off. Unless her spending decades in the Nevernever kept her younger than she actually was.
Lord Kinbote:
Maybe someone has already wrote this in this thread - or cited canon that disproves it - but I believe a "mantle" to refer to a role/level of power/set of abilities that MUST transfer when the entity (vessel) that currently contains that mantle dies.
Winter/Summer Lady dies, when the W/S Knight dies, the mantle MUST go immediately to another. Presumably same applies to Mother W/S, Mab, and Titania, except that those mantles automatically pass to the next in the hierarchical line based on Battle Ground (Mab - 'kill Molly if I die; she's not ready for the Mab mantle').
But the transfers at the bottom of the Mother/Queen/Lady hierarchy isn't controlled by the dying entity or even apparently the Fae hierarchy, who seem only able to position a possible vessel for the bottom tier mantle to take but the mantle goes the the closest, "best" vessel (whatever "best" means and is determined).
Whether that causes an automatic cascading effect (e.g., Mab's mantle automatically to Molly, then the WL mantle automatically exits to head to another vessel) or whether a vessel simultaneously can take the "seeking" mantle and keep the mantle already contained isn't revealed by canon. But maybe Mab's 'kill Molly' hints that Molly would have had both the Mab mantle and the WL mantle, and that's what she couldn't handle.
The Winter/Summer Knight mantle may be different, though, and seem controllable by the W/S Queen. Insofar as we know or has been hinted, the W/S Knight mantle is an appointed position, not part of a hierarchy, and the selection of the vessel is controlled by the W/S Queen to at least some degree.
Maybe the Leanansidhe mantle - if it is one - is similarly controlled by Mab.
SerScot:
--- Quote from: Zelchar on July 15, 2024, 03:34:37 AM ---First time poster here, so I have some catching up to do in the fan speculation stuff here. Harry's mom is composed of about 90% hearsay and rumors. Let's add some more by speculating wildly here.
Who is LeFay's mom? I'd be disappointed if it was some yet unnamed vanilla human. My money is on the Leanansidhe. Who can we add to the suspect list?
LeFay was also about a century old before she died. Do Harry and Thomas have any older siblings?
Now a hypothesis: LeFay met Malcolm after hiring him for Thomas's birthday on Valentines day. Nine months later, Harry was born on Halloween. Plausible?
What other head cannon have you been filling Margaret Gwendolyn McCoy LeFay's backstory with?
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I hope Maggie Sr. mom was mortal. I’m tired of every character in the DF having to have some supernatural connection. I loved Murphy in part because she was a competent vanilla mortal.
I hope Harry’s grandmother was a woman Eb fell deeply in love with who had his daughter and we discover later… exactly why Eb has such a deep seated hatred of vampires.
g33k:
--- Quote from: SerScot on July 20, 2024, 03:57:41 PM --- ...
I hope Harry’s grandmother was a woman Eb fell deeply in love with who had his daughter and we discover later… exactly why Eb has such a deep seated hatred of vampires.
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I've long suspected that Eb is particularly anti-whampire because they cost him his wife (Maggie-Sr's mother).
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