The Dresden Files > DF Spoilers
Carlos and Chandler's mentors
g33k:
--- Quote from: vincentric on April 16, 2024, 03:38:03 AM ---I wasn't thinking of it as a teaching role but more of police function or even a position similar to Mab's but covering magic. Harry would get a limited Intellectus to warn him of major magical threats and events and have the newly formed Wardens as enforcers and the Paranet as the administrative and education arms of his new council/court.
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So far as we know, all mantles are constructs, made by an entity for a purpose.
Who could (and would!) create such a mantle?
I suppose the Archive has the knowledge to create it; and there's enough power on the Island to do the implementation... but, why would she? Her Oblivion-War duties are big on secrecy, and adding a new & independent globe-trotting Mantle to the mix looks like a huge gaping OpSec hole...
The Gatekeeper sent Harry that cryptic "black magic in Chicago" message; so he seems to already be capable of doing "black magic scans" & the like (though that could have just been smoke & mirrors, with Mab tipping off the Gatekeeper to feed Harry the bait, so she could reel him in...) .
Also, Harry "I've got Authority Issues" Dresden would himself be a really ironic target for becoming the ultimate Authority Figure on the issue of Magic! (this is not, I should note, any argument that Jim wouldn't inflict such a thing upon Harry!)
Tinfoil hat:
--- Quote from: g33k on April 17, 2024, 03:40:27 PM ---So far as we know, all mantles are constructs, made by an entity for a purpose.
Who could (and would!) create such a mantle?
I suppose the Archive has the knowledge to create it; and there's enough power on the Island to do the implementation... but, why would she? Her Oblivion-War duties are big on secrecy, and adding a new & independent globe-trotting Mantle to the mix looks like a huge gaping OpSec hole...
The Gatekeeper sent Harry that cryptic "black magic in Chicago" message; so he seems to already be capable of doing "black magic scans" & the like (though that could have just been smoke & mirrors, with Mab tipping off the Gatekeeper to feed Harry the bait, so she could reel him in...) .
Also, Harry "I've got Authority Issues" Dresden would himself be a really ironic target for becoming the ultimate Authority Figure on the issue of Magic! (this is not, I should note, any argument that Jim wouldn't inflict such a thing upon Harry!)
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Jim would definitely do that.
But speaking of what Jim would do. I see Jim making Harry the leader of a new council. And the Harry having to realise that no matter how hard you try someone will always fail through the cracks Especially when youaredealing with the whole world. It would destroy Harry to have togive the kill the crazy warlock order.6
vincentric:
--- Quote from: Tinfoil hat on April 17, 2024, 05:13:03 PM ---Jim would definitely do that.
But speaking of what Jim would do. I see Jim making Harry the leader of a new council. And the Harry having to realise that no matter how hard you try someone will always fail through the cracks Especially when youaredealing with the whole world. It would destroy Harry to have togive the kill the crazy warlock order.6
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Harry is perfectly capable of killing the black magic crazed warlocks, but he would want to give a shot at rehabilitation to all the border cases. He thinks the council should make an effort to save those who are not far gone, and he'd argue for lifting the Doom for their trainers. Setting up a central lor several regional schools and requiring Council members to staff them for a set term would at least give them a chance to save the next generation.
Mira:
--- Quote from: vincentric on April 18, 2024, 04:14:11 AM ---Harry is perfectly capable of killing the black magic crazed warlocks, but he would want to give a shot at rehabilitation to all the border cases. He thinks the council should make an effort to save those who are not far gone, and he'd argue for lifting the Doom for their trainers. Setting up a central lor several regional schools and requiring Council members to staff them for a set term would at least give them a chance to save the next generation.
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Agreed, though I think the Merlin was right in the case of the Koren Kid, he was too far down the tubes to rehab with the Doom. I do think Harry was also right when he argued in Molly's defense, that most of these kids deserve a chance at rehab. The problem Harry will run into will be the same problem that the Merlin and the White Council have run into, enough qualified wizards willing to take on the risk of being responsible for an apprentice under the Doom, since they themselves would suffer the same fate if the apprentice went full warlock. And yes, I think Harry capable of executing a full warlock kid. Harry may find himself having to reform the system so that it is fair to kids who do dumb dangerous stuff with their new found talent before they know better, and at the same time weeding out those who cannot be redeemed... Easier said than done... ::)
Tinfoil hat:
--- Quote from: Mira on April 18, 2024, 02:36:29 PM ---Agreed, though I think the Merlin was right in the case of the Koren Kid, he was too far down the tubes to rehab with the Doom. I do think Harry was also right when he argued in Molly's defense, that most of these kids deserve a chance at rehab. The problem Harry will run into will be the same problem that the Merlin and the White Council have run into, enough qualified wizards willing to take on the risk of being responsible for an apprentice under the Doom, since they themselves would suffer the same fate if the apprentice went full warlock. And yes, I think Harry capable of executing a full warlock kid. Harry may find himself having to reform the system so that it is fair to kids who do dumb dangerous stuff with their new found talent before they know better, and at the same time weeding out those who cannot be redeemed... Easier said than done... ::)
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Agreed it easier said than done.
Even without the doom over their heads( I doubt Harry would retain it of wizards willing to rehab young kids who are potential warlocks) he would still have difficulty finding wizards willing to play babysitter for a potential warlock. Dark magic is addictive. Helping someone kick an addiction is hard and most people ain't suited for the job even if willing which most people aren't.
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