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g33k:

--- Quote from: Mira on August 15, 2024, 04:36:46 PM --- ... can mean both could be star born.. Or since both have some of the right aliments of the stars, with two tickets he increased his chances of winning the star born lottery.. 
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As I so often do, I'll chant the magic words, "I don't think we have enough information to be sure."

My best surmise is that Justin had no way to be certain, by himself...  But maybe Mab does?  Maybe Justin bought "two wizard-children, Starborn" from the fae.

Or maybe the Outsiders themselves know?  Harry believes Justin summoned HWWBehind, and if that's correct, Justin could have been following Outsider info-sources.

Or, as you say, maybe he was just playing Starborn Lotto.  Birth certificates would list date&time of birth.

Mira:

--- Quote ---Or maybe the Outsiders themselves know?  Harry believes Justin summoned HWWBehind, and if that's correct, Justin could have been following Outsider info-sources.

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My memory of Harry's flashback provided by Lea in Ghost Story is fuzzy, but if I remember it correctly Justin didn't summon HWWBehind.  So in that case he may have been going for the star born lottery..

LordDresden2:

--- Quote from: g33k on August 16, 2024, 12:08:58 AM ---As I so often do, I'll chant the magic words, "I don't think we have enough information to be sure."

My best surmise is that Justin had no way to be certain, by himself...  But maybe Mab does?  Maybe Justin bought "two wizard-children, Starborn" from the fae.

Or maybe the Outsiders themselves know?  Harry believes Justin summoned HWWBehind, and if that's correct, Justin could have been following Outsider info-sources.

Or, as you say, maybe he was just playing Starborn Lotto.  Birth certificates would list date&time of birth.

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I think that's actually a key question.  We know from word of JB that the various powers who might be looking for Harry, such as Ebenezar, as well as less well-intentioned folk, lost track after Margaret died, but we've never been told how or why.  It might party be Lea, she might have been working to hide and protect Malcolm and Harry in secret, but I suspect there's more to it than that.

So the question of how they came to Justin's attention may be a really important one.

Mira:

--- Quote ---So the question of how they came to Justin's attention may be a really important one.
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Very much so, a possible explanation is Justin still had connection with the Wardens, so would get intelligence of awaking talent in some kids.. However that doesn't work because we know from Proven Guilty that most talented kids fall through the cracks.  So who knows?  A very important question indeed.

g33k:

--- Quote from: LordDresden2 on August 16, 2024, 06:22:28 AM ---I think that's actually a key question.  We know from word of JB that the various powers who might be looking for Harry, such as Ebenezar, as well as less well-intentioned folk, lost track after Margaret died, but we've never been told how or why.  It might party be Lea, she might have been working to hide and protect Malcolm and Harry in secret, but I suspect there's more to it than that.

So the question of how they came to Justin's attention may be a really important one.
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I think the element where Morgan used his Summer Squire "favor" to become un-trackable was a hint from Jim:  Harry vanished completely via Faerie magic; my guess is that it was part of Maggie-Sr's bargain(s) with Lea and/or Mab.

As Harry has noted, an incautiously-phrased "protect me" bargain with the fae can mean being stuffed into a faerie prison  (and ironically:  Harry himself then "protected" his own brother by stuffing him (with accute torture) into Occult SuperMax prison... Jim has a twisted sense of humor).  Mab made sure none of the "interested parties" could find Harry.  I WAG that it was Harry being born -- separated from his mother -- that allowed Raith's curse to target & kill her.

I think Mab & her handmaiden were very involved, from the beginning.

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