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So What Happened to the Athame?
Mira:
--- Quote from: g33k on October 11, 2023, 11:16:36 PM ---I don't think it went onward from Mab.
Maybe she has a Vault, like Hades; or some Island, like Harry.
Maybe she's still carrying it, under a glamour... or just fastened on a leg-sheath where it passes un-noticed.
Maybe she's wrestling, even now, with Nemesis.
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That last one would be a stunner wouldn't! Imagine in the final battle Mab turning on Molly and Harry, or finally winning her final battle and sacrificing herself kind of like Lash in a spectacular way.
g33k:
--- Quote from: Mira on October 12, 2023, 04:10:55 AM ---That last one would be a stunner wouldn't!
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Honestly, I more-or-less expect this.
I think Mab wanted Harry, in part, because she thought -- when (not if!) worse came to worst -- that Harry has a better chance to take her out than any Winter Knight for the past thousand years.
Right now, she opposes the Outsiders. She is already laying plans against herself, for the time when she no longer opposes them.
I can't remember the book, something where Mab is doing something she said she'd do. Mab said something like "the stars will fall from the sky, ere Mab keep not her word." Which, to be honest, sounds an awful lot like a prophecy to me: there will be a rain of shooting stars, and Mab will break her sworn word... just exactly as if she were Nemfected... And she was warning Harry, years in advance.
Mira:
--- Quote ---I can't remember the book, something where Mab is doing something she said she'd do. Mab said something like "the stars will fall from the sky, ere Mab keep not her word." Which, to be honest, sounds an awful lot like a prophecy to me: there will be a rain of shooting stars, and Mab will break her sworn word... just exactly as if she were Nemfected... And she was warning Harry, years in advance.
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Which sort of fits with the "stars and stones" oath that Harry is always saying. In Peace Talks Eb warns Harry about using that oath so much because he doesn't really understand, not yet anyway the meaning of what he is saying. However when Harry asks him what it means, Eb is evasive and wouldn't answer.
Nemesis is sly, and star born or not, Harry didn't pick up on Justine's infection until it was almost too late and the penetration of Demonreach would have been successful. Of course Harry had had a lot on his plate at that moment along with injury and exhaustion. It is beginning to look to my way of thinking that the Fomor were just another cat's paw of Nemesis. The infestation of Justine was just the tip of the spear to involve Thomas because Harry's reaction was predictable.. The reaction of the White Council, Winter Court etc were also predictable, and that the whole invasion of Chicago was merely a diversion to penetrate Demonreach with the tip of the spear, HWWB, who was infesting Justine. Once inside Demonreach's defenses, HWWB could have caused havoc, even a massive jail break.
So yeah, it could very well be that Mab is infested, but the plans of Nemesis are so subtle, so long range that no one has spotted it as of yet.. And like you say, the Athame is going to play a huge role in that.
g33k:
--- Quote from: Mira on October 12, 2023, 02:01:04 PM ---Which sort of fits with the "stars and stones" oath that Harry is always saying ...
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Just so!
--- Quote from: Mira on October 12, 2023, 02:01:04 PM --- ... It is beginning to look to my way of thinking that the Fomor were just another cat's paw of Nemesis ...
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I think that's a given. Remember, the Outsiders launched a massive attack, precisely coordinated with Ethniu & the Fomor.
--- Quote from: Mira on October 12, 2023, 02:01:04 PM --- ... So yeah, it could very well be that Mab is infested, but the plans of Nemesis are so subtle, so long range that no one has spotted it as of yet ...
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Like I said previously: I think that -- if Mab has indeed been Nemfected -- she is still resisting; she is still Mab, and not an agent of Nemesis.
Mira:
--- Quote ---Like I said previously: I think that -- if Mab has indeed been Nemfected -- she is still resisting; she is still Mab, and not an agent of Nemesis.
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So it would seem, but how long was Justine infected? The plans for her were not achieved in a day.
If Mab is infested, it is deep seated and so hidden she herself may not be aware of it. Like I said, she put herself through the cure like she put Lea through. Was it just prophylactic because she had been exposed to the Knife? Or did she feel symptoms coming on? Even Mab might think she had dodged a bullet as far as infection goes, and after treatment carry on as Mab.. I think not fighting it, simply because she doesn't think she is infected any longer because of the cure. You can bet she tested Lea before she was released, but who tested her? We don't know how great an emotional blow the loss of Maeve was to her, what if something happened to Sarissa as well?
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