The Dresden Files > DF Spoilers
So What Happened to the Athame?
g33k:
--- Quote from: Mira on October 12, 2023, 07:52:19 PM --- ... If Mab is infested, it is deep seated and so hidden she herself may not be aware of it.
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It's possible.
I think she knows, though. I think she expects to lose... eventually. If she thought she had a good replacement to hand, she'd engineer her own death.
But who would become Queen?
Molly, she thinks, is too weak; before Molly, the (Nemfected) Maeve would have been a disaster!
Lea is still too vulnerable to Nemesis... another disaster waiting in the wings, with Lea is the next-most likely person to inherit a Wintermantle when one of them needs a new host.
What if there's other Nemfected? Another likely Winter-y candidate, secretly Nemfected and waiting for a Mantle...?
So Mab dare not pass her Mantle on to another... even though she knows her Nemfection will (eventually) overcojme her. She needs to hold on, until a better option becomes available.
It's a very Ice-Queen solution, a very control-freak perspective.
It's very, very desperate.
Mira:
--- Quote ---I think she knows, though. I think she expects to lose... eventually. If she thought she had a good replacement to hand, she'd engineer her own death.
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If this is true, what better evidence that Nemesis is lurking in her head somewhere.
--- Quote ---Molly, she thinks, is too weak; before Molly, the (Nemfected) Maeve would have been a disaster!
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But Molly isn't weak, she may still be a little too human for Fae taste, but Battle Ground proved she wasn't weak.. Again who'd plant that idea in Mab's head to the point where she wanted her Knight to kill her if she died so she wouldn't replace her. Who'd that serve? You guessed it, Nemesis.
--- Quote ---Lea is still too vulnerable to Nemesis... another disaster waiting in the wings, with Lea is the next-most likely person to inherit a Wintermantle when one of them needs a new host.
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My point exactly.
--- Quote ---So Mab dare not pass her Mantle on to another... even though she knows her Nemfection will (eventually) overcojme her. She needs to hold on, until a better option becomes available.
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Or this is what Nemesis wants her to believe, think how dangerous a really paranoid Mab would be, to the world, not the Outside.
Snark Knight:
--- Quote from: Conspiracy Theorist on October 06, 2023, 04:41:35 PM ---Demonreach can release different parts of a thing, whilst it may deleterious to remove a Lady’s Mantle to the Lady, it could disinfect the Athame like an autoclave. There is a very good reason Mab hasn’t asked for this.
She would have to ask a favour of Harry as Warden as the Winter Knight could not. Pride.
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Perhaps she doesn't want to owe Harry. Perhaps it would be more dangerous to separate the athame from Nemesis, though.
Ejecting the knife of power from the prison and keeping Nemesis confined might allow it a shot at Alfred.
It also might not, but even uncertainty on the issue is an excellent reason not to try.
Mira:
--- Quote ---Perhaps she doesn't want to owe Harry. Perhaps it would be more dangerous to separate the athame from Nemesis, though.
Ejecting the knife of power from the prison and keeping Nemesis confined might allow it a shot at Alfred.
It also might not, but even uncertainty on the issue is an excellent reason not to try.
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At this point anyway there is more we don't know about Nemesis than we do know. Heck until Harry forced an answer out of Titania, interesting scene that since she would like him dead, it was simply known as the adversary. Even Mother Summer hesitated to call it by any other name and said it was safer to do so. So that being the case, and the lengths Nemesis has already gone to to try and infiltrate the island, best it would seem that the Athame stay where it is.. Or not, if it couldn't be kept secure in Demonreach prison, could Mab really hope to keep it any safer?
g33k:
--- Quote from: Mira on October 20, 2023, 02:50:48 PM ---At this point anyway there is more we don't know about Nemesis than we do know...
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Very true!
I wonder who does know more?
Titania likely knows more than she said. Mab, I'm sure; and Odin. Maeve looped-in Lily, but only to deceive her, and we don't know what Molly and/or Sarissa know. Several (if not all) of the Fallen, and Uriel of course. [ Maybe Harry could get another Shadow, spend a few years converting it to an ally, and learn that way... YeahNo, I know: not gonna happen, and also a Terrible Idea ]
Ferrovax certainly knows something. Also Drakul (who may be an Outsider, trapped in a mortal's body).
Who might, in particular, be able to tell Harry more? The fae likely cannot: it's "valuable info" and Harry cannot afford to purchase it. Lea might be an exception, if she's still acting as his Faerie Godmother (when does that expire, if ever?)
Ebenezer? Perhaps... but perhaps not. He's aware of Outsiders, broadly-speaking (likely knows more than about them than Harry, e.g. recognized "Cornerhounds" & their strengths/weaknesses, educated Harry); but Eb seems focused on the "Black Council" and I don't think we've seen him ever show signs of knowing about Nemesis...?
Odin has been willing to give info to Harry "for free." But only in a few specific cases, and we don't know if this qualifies.
Does Kincaid know? Or Goodman Grey? Other supernatural merc's? (because, by definition, merc's are in the biz of selling their expertise).
I wonder if the Warden could compel the info from Ethniu, or from any other prisoners in the Well?
Harry had a binder of supernatural sources... summoned a Loa who seemed to have an inside track even on Angelic-level sources!
Any other way(s) for him to learn about Nemesis (and/or more about the Starborn thing)?
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