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Ruby Waystone ...
g33k:
--- Quote from: KurtinStGeorge on September 29, 2023, 10:03:14 PM ---Peabody and his partner appear to have known a Way to the island...
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I've never been entirely satisfied with this idea...
If Peabody knew a Way onto the island, WTF was he doing on-camera using the same Way into Chicago that the Senior Councilors were using, as their route to the island?
The Water Beetle may be Harry's reliable way onto the island, but that doesn't mean someone like Peabody might not be willing to do other things (like fly overhead, then parasail to a soft landing; etc).
The more I think on it, the less I believe Peabody arrived via the Nevernever: being able to set foot on Demonreach from the Nevernever is a *HUGE* gap in the island's defenses.
If such a route exists (known to Peabody, who presumably is presumably an Outsidertool) why didn't Nemfected Justine do it?
Why didn't the Outsiders' earlier barge-borne water assault include a Nevernever component?
Mira:
--- Quote ---If Peabody knew a Way onto the island, WTF was he doing on-camera using the same Way into Chicago that the Senior Councilors were using, as their route to the island?
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But the Senior Councilors with the exception of Rashid [who knows most if not all the Ways] used a boat because the Way or Ways to the island were so dangerous.
--- Quote ---The more I think on it, the less I believe Peabody arrived via the Nevernever: being able to set foot on Demonreach from the Nevernever is a *HUGE* gap in the island's defenses.
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Yes, and no, if the Way to the island is that dangerous, few would attempt to use it or perhaps even know about it. It was a HUGE gap in the defenses as long as the island was Wardenless, but that was addressed once Harry became Warden.
--- Quote ---If such a route exists (known to Peabody, who presumably is presumably an Outsidertool) why didn't Nemfected Justine do it?
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Because the island now has a Warden, Harry Dresden, that year he lived on the island that aspect of the island's defenses was addressed and now closed, so Nemfected Justine couldn't use it.
--- Quote ---Why didn't the Outsiders' earlier barge-borne water assault include a Nevernever component?
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Hiccup in Jim's writing perhaps? Or more logically the Way that exists didn't lend itself to a mass invasion.. Or maybe not even the Outsiders know all of the Ways in the Nevernever.. Which makes sense if you think about it, because if they knew them all, the Nevernever would be vulnerable as well. In other words why do the Outsiders waste troops storming the Outer Gates if they could invade the Nevernever by a Way or Ways?
g33k:
--- Quote from: Mira on October 01, 2023, 04:01:43 PM ---... In other words why do the Outsiders waste troops storming the Outer Gates if they could invade the Nevernever by a Way or Ways?
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The Outside is outside of even the Nevernever.
You have to go deep into the Nevernever to get to the Outer Gates; there are no Ways on the other side of them.
Mira:
--- Quote from: g33k on October 02, 2023, 03:41:45 PM ---The Outside is outside of even the Nevernever.
You have to go deep into the Nevernever to get to the Outer Gates; there are no Ways on the other side of them.
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Do we have that information yet? Another way of looking at it, that is another reason why they wanted so badly to infect the inner circle of either Court, how many outside of the Queens actually know ALLthe Ways? Even if there are no Ways in or out of the Outer Gates.. Outsiders can be summoned by mortals, right? Mortals can be tricked or corrupted into performing that act, right? So theoretically, an Outsider can be summoned, find a Way into the Nevernever. Especially an area not well controlled by either Court and very dangerous to begin with.
Conspiracy Theorist:
Arctis tor is difficult for most Wizards to get to, there is however a known Way from Pells Theatre in Chicago to the Phobophages lair just outside it, which Harry would have put in his report to the White Council about Molly and received by ……Peabody. Therefore Peabody would have had to use the Edinburgh to Chicago route, get a taxi or lift to Pell’s, meet his partner (Maeve) in the now empty phobophages lair, who would then take him to the Ice Garden and open a Way dumping Winters Ice Spiders (placed by Maeve to harass Harry on the Way to Edinburgh).
This is likely one of the actions which alerted Mab that Maeve could not be trusted, she already suspected Nameless of opening the Gate during the attack on Arctis Tor and had banished him, having Maeve do it took the pressure off Nameless. Another reason why I think Nameless is Cowl, he is the only character with access to both Winter and to Wardens reports.
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