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ebenezer didn't look for harry
robl:
why didn't ebenezer look for harry when malcolm died. he could have used his own blood to search for him since they were of the same blood. I know that morgan was looking for him but could not find him but I figured ebenezer would have moved heaven and earth to find him and the blood magic would not be easily stopped by justin.
Mira:
That's the $64,000.00 question as they used to say. We've been kicking that subject around for years.
Regenbogen:
I think there are 2 possibilities:
#1
After reading Peace Talks, he did look for Harry and he did find him. But he didn't take him in, because he was taken care of. I think he planned on watching, if little Harry started showing magical talent at some time. If it never happened, Harry would never have known him. If Harry showed talent, Ebenezar would have taken him as apprentice or apprentice him to an other wizard he trusted.
But then Harry was adopted by Justin. Maybe Justin even got a tip from Ebenezar. During this time Justin was still supposed to be a respected warden, so good master material for Harry. But why did Eb approve of Justin not introducing his apprentice to the council?
#2
After Malcolm died, Lea took care that Harry disappeared from all mundane and magical screens, because of a deal Margaret made with her for Harry's protection. So nobody could find Harry. Not even powerful wizards with blood relation. Justin was just screening the orphanages for weird incidences. That's how he found Harry. It was the impossible long jump.
I think #2 is more likely, considering Morgan's journal entry. I guess, Justin still appeared at council meetings, but never told any other council wizard about his apprentices. But I also can totally imagine Ebenezar knowing where his grandson was, but just not interfering. Like he seemed to have done with his own daughter.
I hope this will be cleared up some day.
Mira:
--- Quote ---After reading Peace Talks, he did look for Harry and he did find him. But he didn't take him in, because he was taken care of. I think he planned on watching, if little Harry started showing magical talent at some time. If it never happened, Harry would never have known him. If Harry showed talent, Ebenezar would have taken him as apprentice or apprentice him to an other wizard he trusted.
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Oh wonderful, a fightened six year old orphan all alone in the world, ward of the state, in an orphanage... His only known living relative ignores him, but might take an interest if little Harry showed any talent as he nears the age of eleven or twelve.. This was for Harry's own good, mind you, I guess Eb could rationalize a couple of reasons for doing that... ???
--- Quote ---But then Harry was adopted by Justin. Maybe Justin even got a tip from Ebenezar. During this time Justin was still supposed to be a respected warden, so good master material for Harry. But why did Eb approve of Justin not introducing his apprentice to the council?
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Better question, why is it that only a couple of trusted wizards even know that Harry is he grandson?
--- Quote ---After Malcolm died, Lea took care that Harry disappeared from all mundane and magical screens, because of a deal Margaret made with her for Harry's protection. So nobody could find Harry. Not even powerful wizards with blood relation. Justin was just screening the orphanages for weird incidences. That's how he found Harry. It was the impossible long jump.
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Is it? I don't buy that Justin decided one day in his retirement since he had nothing better to do, that it would be great to raise a couple of kids. So he scoured all the orphanages in the country looking for kids with talent, better yet kids that could qualify as star born, to adopt. I think there is a lot more to this story that we don't know yet.
--- Quote ---I think #2 is more likely, considering Morgan's journal entry. I guess, Justin still appeared at council meetings, but never told any other council wizard about his apprentices. But I also can totally imagine Ebenezar knowing where his grandson was, but just not interfering. Like he seemed to have done with his own daughter.
I hope this will be cleared up some day.
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I hope so too, there is also the little matter of why didn't Eb reveal to young Harry when he took him in under the Doom that he was his grandfather?
Bottom line? Eb shouldn't be lecturing Harry on how to raise his own daughter! Wizards who live in wooden houses shouldn't be throwing fire balls! >:(
KurtinStGeorge:
--- Quote from: Regenbogen on December 30, 2023, 05:52:52 PM ---I think there are 2 possibilities:
#1
After reading Peace Talks, he did look for Harry and he did find him. But he didn't take him in, because he was taken care of. I think he planned on watching, if little Harry started showing magical talent at some time. If it never happened, Harry would never have known him. If Harry showed talent, Ebenezar would have taken him as apprentice or apprentice him to an other wizard he trusted.
But then Harry was adopted by Justin. Maybe Justin even got a tip from Ebenezar. During this time Justin was still supposed to be a respected warden, so good master material for Harry. But why did Eb approve of Justin not introducing his apprentice to the council?
#2
After Malcolm died, Lea took care that Harry disappeared from all mundane and magical screens, because of a deal Margaret made with her for Harry's protection. So nobody could find Harry. Not even powerful wizards with blood relation. Justin was just screening the orphanages for weird incidences. That's how he found Harry. It was the impossible long jump.
I think #2 is more likely, considering Morgan's journal entry. I guess, Justin still appeared at council meetings, but never told any other council wizard about his apprentices. But I also can totally imagine Ebenezar knowing where his grandson was, but just not interfering. Like he seemed to have done with his own daughter.
I hope this will be cleared up some day.
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I won't be surprised if eventually we are told that Lea is the reason why Justin found out about and got ahold of Harry. Now that I think about it, it is also possible Lea knows something about Elaine's origin story. However, there is nothing in the novels, short stories or Q&A sessions with Jim that I've watched; and I've watched a lot of them, that remotely support this second idea. It's pure speculation.
About my first and main idea, I keep thinking about a WoJ that states that Margaret LeFey didn't make the best possible deal she might have made with Lea for Harry's protection. I have previously assumed that Margaret got Lea to agree to protect Harry from outside threats but didn't realize that Malcolm Dresden might also need protection. In other words, Margaret thought that because Malcom Dresden wasn't a player in the supernatural world no one in that world would have a reason to target him. Then again, perhaps Margaret did get Lea to agree to protect Malcolm Dresden, from everyone except herself. I theorize that Lea either stood by and did nothing when Malcolm Dresden was murdered or she did it herself.
Lea's deal with Justin could have started when Malcolm Dresden was still alive. Remove Malcolm to trap the boy in a system where he could be easily monitored and not wander the country with his father where anyone else might find him. Once Harry manifested magical abilities, Justin was suited to teach Harry basic use of magic. Malcolm couldn't teach Harry about magic, so he was probably always seen as expendable by Lea.
In my version of events Lea knew exactly what kind of person Justin was; even if the White Council didn't know, or fully know, about Justin. She always planned to turn on him at the first opportunity and gain the use of Harry's abilities for herself. Justin probably never realized that Lea had been training Harry; apparently to just believe in himself, when Harry returned to face him. It's a series of moves that the White Court of Vampires would approve of.
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