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The Halloween Conjunction -- how secret, *really*?
g33k:
--- Quote from: Conspiracy Theorist on July 27, 2023, 03:19:43 PM ---You can get good quality computer models of the solar system, and unless Jim is cheating by moving Planetary bodies around none of the putative years of Harry’s birth shows any significant conjunction occurring 666 years including comets and meteor showers.
What if it’s as simple as every child born at dawn on the 31st October Every 666 years?
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Problem is, we don't know what the "Starborn" conjunction is a conjunction of; it might not be anything that the rest of us (or the computer models) would a priori see as "significant." We just don't know.
Sure, dawn on 31 October, every 666 years ... works for me.
Honestly, I think Jim was just being lazy. He wanted his "chosen one" figure to be born when "the stars are right" so he just wrote that... without ever deciding what the specific conjunction was, or researching any conjunctions, or anything like it.
Same is true for the ambiguity around Harry's birth-year: I don't think Jim ever researched all the specific clues he dropped, to match a specific year. He just went, "that's about right" off the top of his head, and sent his draft to the publisher.
Remember: Storm Front wasn't written to be a successful novel. :o
Storm Front was written as an exercise in proving his instructor was wrong! ::)
g33k:
--- Quote from: Con on July 26, 2023, 05:15:17 AM --- ... Doesn't mean everyone would know of all of the above as common knowledge.
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Doesn't have to be "common knowledge" to be something that's sufficiently well known to already be a cat that's out of the bag, a barn door post-horse-bolting, etc.
My point is... it's seems likely to me that This Is Known (for example, I bet most or all of the Senior Council knows it, either as a fact they learned or as a deduction they realized from their theoretical understanding of magical & supernatural laws). They don't talk about it because they're protecting all the Stupid Kids who would go trying to steal some immortality for themselves every Autumn...
My very-immediate followup point is: how worried is Mab, really, that Bob knows this?
And my conclusion is: Not worried. At all.
Conspiracy Theorist:
I do wonder if Jim has need of crowdsourcing an answer.
Dawn is a time of renewal where old enchantments are ripped away. It’s a physical sensation for a practioner.Halloween is a day even an immortal can die and power can be transferred. We have been given the 666 year cycles. Someone is setting these rules it’s either Jim or the White God.
The conduction is the time day and year, 666 is the number of the Beast in the Book of Revelation. We know we are due for a Big A Apocalypse, is the Endgame from the last conjunction? The final Battle.
The_Sibelis:
--- Quote ---Sure, dawn on 31 October, every 666 years ... works for me.
Honestly, I think Jim was just being lazy. He wanted his "chosen one" figure to be born when "the stars are right" so he just wrote that... without ever deciding what the specific conjunction was, or researching any conjunctions, or anything like it.
Same is true for the ambiguity around Harry's birth-year: I don't think Jim ever researched all the specific clues he dropped, to match a specific year. He just went, "that's about right" off the top of his head, and sent his draft to the publisher.
Remember: Storm Front wasn't written to be a successful novel.
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did he actually name Harry's birthday in SF?🤔 I don't recall when his birthday first came up actually. Though, between the time he penned the outline for SF and actually published it was a few years, and after he'd wrote the outline for his whole 20 books Plus BAT trilogy.
It's not the Jim's not lazy, I'm quite positive he admits it lol. But start to line up different characters birthday's and he clearly had some intentions behind them. Though if he'd connected the overall cycle of anything to the specific dates of birthdays yet... I actually don't think so. Think that came later. So that part might be mushed together like you say.
Conspiracy Theorist:
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