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The Halloween Conjunction -- how secret, *really*?

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g33k:
Immortals can be killed on Halloween, as per the Big Reveal in CD by Bob.
He cites it -- his knowledge of it -- as the source of his fear of Mab.

But... how secret can that info be, really?  It's a basic "fact of the universe."  It is likely something that a really clever theoretician (such as Butters) could work out, with enough understanding of the magical Laws of the Dresdenverse (I'm not saying Butters does know it; I'm unclear how much he got into the deep fundamentals with Bob, given that he was ALSO busy with his occult-Batman project).

And there are so damned many of these Immortals.  Hundreds, maybe even thousands (across the whole world and many cultures).  Nemesis certainly winkled the info out of either/both of Aurora & Maeve, and other powerful mortals may have tricked or seduced or coerced the info out of other Immortals.  Then there's Odin.  He likes it this way:  the spice of the risk, the hunt, the game; the odds are awfully-high, honestly, that Odin has told more than one mortal this secret.  And given how damned many of the Immortals do come out to "play" on Halloween, they too seem to find the "game" worth playing.

Plus the aforementioned many Immortals -- maybe one (or several) of them (thus far offstage) have their own reasons for "spilling the beans" to one or more mortals.  As one example:  it could be a Power-Play:  if you have a cult-following of True Believers, getting 99% of them killed to get a few incredibly-powered-up might be a really-worthwhile bargain.

All in all... I don't actually think the "secret" was as much of a secret as Bob made it out to be.

Con:
It is one of those things that's if not obvious in hindsight makes sense when you hear it.

Like I wouldn't be surprised if there's some sort of ritual involving rhe artefacts from the vault having a ceremony on Easter. Or that where court are vulnerable on valentines day. Forest people might be more attuned on thanks giving. You can apply holidays various importance and effects on the Supernatural. Doesn't mean everyone would know of all of the above as common knowledge.

Conspiracy Theorist:
There probably was about 2000 years ago, Jim is awfully quiet about Jesus which means he either wants to steer well clear of it, or it’s a plot point in the future books.

Part of the WG became human to ascertain the human condition, died and was resurrected and rejoined the WG. Somehow this led to the Denarians becoming active. Are the Denarians therefore essential to the WG’s ultimate plan? They should have been minted before the Swords. Was the aim to create the swords? We know Namshiel helped secure the last Titan acting against the proscription of the WG and putting humanity at risk. Namshiel must have redeemed himself in part. We know Nick thinks there are traitors to his mission, and that he will be considered a ‘Saint’. Is he being played if so by whom? Lucifer? Uriel?

Mira:

--- Quote ---But... how secret can that info be, really?  It's a basic "fact of the universe."  It is likely something that a really clever theoretician (such as Butters) could work out, with enough understanding of the magical Laws of the Dresdenverse (I'm not saying Butters does know it; I'm unclear how much he got into the deep fundamentals with Bob, given that he was ALSO busy with his occult-Batman project).

--- End quote ---

  I don't think it is all that secret, but having said that I think it is easier said than done, as they say.
I seem to remember the phrase, "it is possible..." So yeah, it maybe possible to kill Mab or Kringle on Halloween, but that doesn't mean it is easy, that is why they have lived as long as they have.

Conspiracy Theorist:
You can get good quality computer models of the solar system, and unless Jim is cheating by moving Planetary bodies around none of the putative years of Harry’s birth shows any significant conjunction occurring 666 years including comets and meteor showers.

What if it’s as simple as every child born at dawn on the 31st October Every 666 years?

In the early cycles you might get a single child, but as human population grew so would the number of Starborn. That means you need no particular geographical area. A talented practitioner could chase dawn around the globe using the Never Never time dilation, as well without breaking the seven laws. Only the Gatekeeper and Margaret could do that with any great certainty.

What if that is Nicks unknowing purpose? Population control?

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