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In Retrospect The Relevance Of Storm Front and Full Moon

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Mira:

--- Quote ---Why the Black Council want that is another question, and there is plenty of speculation around that for another topic.
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 I believe it is at the end of Dead Beat, Harry tells Morgan that he feels that the Red Court are merely a "cat's paw" for a bigger power. It looked for a minute like it could have been the Fomor, but they too by the end of Battleground look like another paw of the cat... My money is on Drakul being on of the cats, Mavra doesn't know it yet, but she too will turn out to be a paw.

Conspiracy Theorist:
I believe Cowl may have negotiated a Fomor /Red Court Alliance, the latter got the seas oceans and lakes the latter the land. The Red Court used a Fomor weapon against the White Council in Proven Guilty.

Basically Cowl was trying to create an Axis against the Accorded Nations for decades to completely overwhelm them during an attack at the gates. Harry dismantled large parts of those plans in the various case files, often unintentionally.

It’s a question as regards what the Black Council wanted as regards Cowl. Cowl played to each of the members Agenda’s more power within their sphere, destruction of enemies etc, but Fugitive let slip Cowl wants to be Master of the Future. I believe that the creation and purpose of the White God is at stake in the BAT and Cowl’s aim is to become the White God and asset his purpose. Lucifer has the same aim. Perhaps Drakul.

The_Sibelis:
I've always thought the Death of the reds freed up potential mantles into play. With the number of elders matching the number of grey council perfectly. Could be though some of that power went to better mirrors. The fomor could have been empowered not in a significant way, but in an important one. With mantles specifically meant for interaction with the mortal realms. Whatever key mechanism in them allowed practically immortal vampires to effect the fate of the world for generations only subtly opposed by the greater good(as opposed to them being thrown from reality for breaking rules on Godhood). This would be whatever power suddenly has ethniu, a titan, more than capable of once again walking abroad and deciding things again. Titans shouldn't be allowed no? It even breaks your power scale on what TWG allows because ethniu is bigger than man CT.(though perhaps less than she should have been still)So how'd she do it? The combined gravitas of 13 lesser mantles perhaps?
As for the early books... I think it could be a combination of Nemesis and Odin/EK for their own reasons. Gotta remember, we're just now meeting all the players bit they've all taken their turn at the board already. I think Shadowman was probably pushed by Raith, but I also see Odin having a hand in it for various reasons. Not the least of which is the storms actually being used and how Odin effects the weather. It's entirely possible to me, the "monsters" Eb walked away from and Raith was trying to get in good with, were simply the same group at the end of BG. An Odin and Raith could have a working relationship,  with Raith having attempted to curry favor at some point.
There were not one, but two targets for Shadowman. Marcone and Harry. One target, and one potential fall guy also thrown willy nilly into the mix. With Morgan seemingly tipped off as well.(or he's selectively asleep on the job in the in-between books til the vampire war) one possible motive, is also to reveal these two elements to each other as well.
FM has a lot of throwbacks to Odin's power and descendants and centers around what we know is EK's earthly... Whatever(I forget the word, lost in a thought about how having to find a place to cross over from the earthly side requires a strong connection between the two areas and certain beings can only use connections that are close to them in ways and pondering the connectivity of mirrors to fetches🤔 anyway) so I find Odin and EK likely to be doing some amount of "testing" of their earthly counters. The death of Macfinn though, that was certainly desirable by Nemesis, though considering the cycle and what THEY know, it could've been done intentionally by our side too🤷‍♂️
All I know is the prophecy is self fulfilling, breaking the curse actually brings about the end of days I think, because that was Fearbringer captured in that curse. It's perfect earthly mirror it was intentionally trapped within through Saint Patrick's own family line. He didn't lay out a curse on someone else, he cursed himself and his family to stop the beast.(as is part of the cycle with DR and the Grace theory behind it, part of the cycle is using something of yourself to contain a great evil. Merlin's was a grace. Rashid I think actively contains the manifestations of Nyarlahotep with the light of his soul. The tall joyous man, something of pure good to contain pure evil, ect) the breaking of the curse is what herald's the end of days. And, pretty much ever since one of the BIGGEST repeating goals has been to make a "living"(in so much as it's able to continue to grow and change) manifestation of Fearbringer. First Kravos in the very next book no less, later Molly,(feel like I'm forgetting at least one)
🤔 I'm wondering if there's a pattern behind which walker is active in the books actually though identifying that would be hard. Fearbringer is pretty obvious, then there's the crazy young magical female trope that I think is probably Nemesis and 🤷‍♂️

Conspiracy Theorist:
Which Mantles are these? Where are they mentioned in text or in WOJ, as you like to say please cite the book and page number or the WOJ.

The_Sibelis:

--- Quote from: Conspiracy Theorist on July 23, 2023, 12:45:13 PM ---Which Mantles are these? Where are they mentioned in text or in WOJ, as you like to say please cite the book and page number or the WOJ.

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the ones all the ramps wore that they'd have gotten off the original, it was discussed here to the point all serious forumites adopted it as canonical. No it's not my theory. It's piggybacking off of someone else's, so if you disagree with that part, go find your elders and challenge them about it because it was about as accepted as ducks pancake universe or seracks grand unification theory. Go ahead though, completely dismantle the theory the Lord's of outer night had attentive mantles. Just go into the logic behind it and actually stop it from making perfect sense.

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