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Rudy up on charges?
Mira:
--- Quote from: vincentric on June 15, 2023, 10:43:19 PM ---It wasn't a case of the WK mantle taking over Harry in a moment of rage, it was Harry embracing the rage and becoming the mantle.
The sword burned Harry in this case because he is a Supernatural now. The mantle gives him several powers and he has the fae vulnerability to iron. The sword did what was necessary to defend Rudy from the Winter Knight but only enough to shock Harry out of the bad choice he made.
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Except the Sword of Faith is no longer made of iron, nor was Harry anymore supernatural then as he was in the beginning of Peace Talks when he touched the blade without harm... It is weird because in Death Masks Susan couldn't take the Sword of Faith to carry for Harry without it burning her. Yes, she was half vamp now, but she didn't have any evil intent when he handed her the Sword so he could climb up the ladder being injured. However in Changes, she could wield the Sword of Love as a Knight for one night to save her daughter. What I am trying to say is it is complicated.
--- Quote ---The Swords do not act to prevent simple human error -- even Sin -- when driven by simple human passions like fear, love, anger, pain, etc. Sometimes the Knights will do that, offering compassion and wisdom.
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Normally, but Harry isn't normal, humans aren't normally gifted with soul fire either.
The_Sibelis:
--- Quote from: Mira on June 15, 2023, 01:39:20 AM --- I don't think the Winter Knight's Mantle had much to do with Harry losing it and nearly killing Rudolph. Witnessing Rudolph senselessly gunning down Murphy was the match that blew the powder keg.. Harry is a powerful wizard who became emotionally unhinged at that moment, and was willing to draw on the black.. He needed no assist, but yes, his friends were there to stop him, as friends should do.
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indeed, he didn't use wintery style magic or anything flavored with it... Though if I'm remembering the right description(couple scenes it could have been) his mindset really resembled that he touched upon in HWWBH, the self loathing and hatred mixed.
Nooneofconsequence:
I put "Wicked Faerie" in quotes because I also disagree with the simplistic view of Mab as "evil". She's cold, ruthless and apparently driven by logic and reason to an inhuman degree (though she clearly does have strong emotions). But all that just makes her, well, inhuman. Which she is.
Mira:
--- Quote from: Nooneofconsequence on June 17, 2023, 03:19:00 AM ---I put "Wicked Faerie" in quotes because I also disagree with the simplistic view of Mab as "evil". She's cold, ruthless and apparently driven by logic and reason to an inhuman degree (though she clearly does have strong emotions). But all that just makes her, well, inhuman. Which she is.
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Perhaps, but it wasn't her influence that caused Harry to attack Rudy. I think a point being missed is he was also "judging" Rudy, that is a big no,no... That was the big mistake Murphy had made when she broke the Sword when she tried to kill Nic.
Nooneofconsequence:
And there's the fact that Harry wasn't just killing Rudolph.
He was killing Rudolph slowly and cruelly, while savoring his terror. And that is the Winter Mantle's influence.
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