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Harry and the semi-immortal shapeshifter

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Melriken:
Harry signing onto the Acords as a Freeholding Lord would go a long way to balance the power of winter... IE it would free Harry to act AGAINST Mab when he needed to.  It would also make his personal life worse because he would have to help settle arguments between other members of the Accords... 

The Vampires and the Fairies both claim ownership of this baby for these reasons... who gets to eat the baby?

This would be another step to creating a Mantle out of the Wizard of Chicago...

I have also wondered if the Wizard of Chicago will owe fealty to the Baron of Chicago, after all Marcone tried to hire Harry before Mab did, and like Mab has been sending him jobs that he can't refuse for a while now... and Harry would love it if the mantle of the Wizard of Chicago was similar to the mantle of the Knight of Winter...

g33k:

I don't think Harry has what it takes to become a signatory in his own right.
He's just not suited to handle that.  Maybe after a century or so of tempering.

Harleaquinn:
My opinion s that Harry is groomed by almost everyone to take over Mabs mantle. meaning defender of reality and holding the outer gates.
I think somewhere with the mothers or the gatekeeper it was said that Mabs responsibility is defending all of reality „in this age“. Mab took over around Hastings? And was mortal before that.
So she probably was a Starborn, because its pretty nifty when the main focus point of defense against the outsiders can’t be corrupted by them.
So in the next age, it is humanity who will take over the defense, not Winter anymore.

Most factions prepare starborns to be in position to take over the defense mantle, because with this mantle, there also comes lots of additional, collateral power over how our reality looks like. Makes a lot of difference if the ruleset after the accords is written by Drakul or by Harry.

Maybe Harry enlists or press-gangs the inmates of Demonreach to be the defenders or consumes all of them and sets up a new defense line. But this will be his last mantle.

Melriken:

--- Quote from: Harleaquinn on May 03, 2023, 05:56:06 PM ---So in the next age, it is humanity who will take over the defense, not Winter anymore.
--- End quote ---
No, the last time around it was a mortal that was put in charge of the defense of the Outer Gates and that mortal was transformed into Fey and created the entire Fey Courts for the purpose.

Humans won't be put in charge of the outer gates, whoever ends up in charge of them will stop being human. That probably is Harry... but he won't be human in that case, he will be something else.

The story starts with "My name is Harry Blackstone Copperfield Dresden, conjure by it at your own risk"... he doesn't end up human.

Harleaquinn:
Really, I wasn’t aware of that, maybe you’re right.

But wasn’t there something about Mab not being the first winter queen? So Winter and therefore faerie courts existed before that. I think Titania is still the first one but Mab had a predecessor.

With the greek undertones of Maiden/Queen/Mother I always assumed that the greek/roman guys handled the defense before that.

So I thought the dominant (ok that’s really western centric) pantheon gets the responsibility. Greek civilization, then Middle Ages represented by faerie tales/Vikings/Anglo-Saxon/ etc. Pantheon. Which would mean now its Christianism time. So „humanity“ is probably the wrong term.

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