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Some personal theories I want to get feedback on.

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Melriken:

--- Quote from: Conspiracy Theorist on April 19, 2023, 07:05:23 PM ---From Wikipedia about wolves in mythology

Finnish
Unlike the fox and the bear, the wolf has been feared and hated in Finland for a long time. The wolf has been the symbol of destruction and desolation to the extent that the very word for wolf in the Finnish language, susi, also means "a useless thing", and the by-name hukka means perdition and annihilation. While the bear has been the sacred animal of the Finns, wolves have been hunted and killed mercilessly for a long time. The wolf has been represented as an implacable and malicious predator, killing more than it manages to eat.

We have seen the bear in The Law, this makes me think Nameless/Cowl was behind the HexenWulf Belts and may also been behind Harley McFinns original circle to unleash the Loupe Garou, and it’s vandalism. For all we know Spike was working for Nameless/Cowl, and informed the FBI of the Streetwoves, all to test Harry, and sow a little bit of Discord before Grave Peril.
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This feels like forced reasoning (starting with the answer and looking for a way to support it)... It reminds me of the ST:Voy episode where 7 of 9 sets the computer to download the ship logs into her mind every night and then the next day comes to the captain with a theory that the first officer is a traitor... the day after that comes to the first officer with a theory that the captain is a traitor... then the next day another theory... and for each theory she has a LOT of reasonable evidence that makes it sound reasonable... but lots of the same evidence is used in different theories to 'prove' different things and in the end all the theories turn out wrong and they shut down the download...

This is the same... you did some research and found something that can kind of be used to support your pet theory... but it is weak and just feels forced... sorry, no bite.

g33k:

--- Quote from: Yuillegan on April 18, 2023, 04:57:39 AM --- ...I don't mind the Kim Delaney theory. Definitely has some merit. What's Kim's connection to Cowl though? And why Kim over Harry (the strongest wizard in the city) or Mort or anyone else? What's Kim's connection to the dark side?
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From the Denarian perspective, Kim's weakness -- her "dark side" -- would be pride  (I suspect the same is true of most practioners (even the minor ones like Kim)).

I can see how Cowl could exploit that.  But I don't see how that "dark side" makes her more-attractive to Cowl.

BUT...

She doesn't really need a "connection" to Cowl, or to a "dark side."

This theory rests entirely on Cowl's shoulders; Kim would be the innocent victim here.

The odds are very high that if Cowl uses necromancy to raise someone from the dead, he'll be able to bind that person, to one degree or another.  The idea here would be to leverage Kim's local knowledge, particularly her knowledge as a sometime-trainee of Harry Dresden.  And (eventually) to drop a Big Reveal on Harry in order to gain a tactical or strategic advantage.

Cthoniq:
Coin Theory: I'd bet there's a question of balance. We know soulfire and hellfire are fundamental forces of the universe, basically creation and destruction. Angels CAN use hellfire, they just choose not to.


--- Quote ---#259 “Does the same apply to hellfire/soulfire. What would happen if Harry were to take up Lasciel’s coin and then try to use soulfire and hellfire together? Would that result in Harry dying horribly?”
Those are different. They’re really two sides of the same coin–but they can’t really exist together like that. They aren’t explosively reactive, but they aren’t additive, either. Which one came into the person to be used would depend on the person who was using it, and what they were using it for.
Angelic types have access to both. Which one they use is partially what determines what /kind/ of angels they are.
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We know that the Angels can only use their power on mortals to counter the actions of the Fallen, based on Uriel's actions in SF and GS. We know that the Swords are tools of Angelic power, with an Angel in each one mirroring the Fallen in the denarians. If there's a principle of balance as Uriel states, then it stands to reason that sword cuts both ways; the Fallen are given leeway to balance the actions of the Angels. We also know that despite the fact that the Swords' remit is specifically to counter the actions of the Fallen, they can still be used against beings other than the fallen, based on the choices of their mortal wielders, thus employing Angelic power in a way that isn't balancing out an action of the fallen. So the Fallen aren't a force outside of the Almighty's plan, they're a balanced part of it.

My theory is that this imbalance created by free use of Angelic power is balanced out by returning more power from the Fallen to the mortal world. So mortals choose to employ Angelic power outside the balance, and "coincidence" causes a balancing Fallen force to be expressed, freeing a coin. It would be wonderfully ironic that by being the people they are, the Knights are perpetuating the struggle.

Kim Theory: It's Elaine bro. It was revealed to me in a dream.

Snark Knight:

--- Quote from: Yuillegan on April 18, 2023, 04:57:39 AM ---So it's actually not Michael, but Father Forthill who reveals this information.

Also, while Anduriel can hear and sometimes see out of any shadow, he can't do this out of every shadow. I highly doubt he can do it on consecrated ground like that of a church, given how hard it is for spiritual entities to even get onto church ground. Talk about a threshold.

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I don't mind the Kim Delaney theory. Definitely has some merit. What's Kim's connection to Cowl though? And why Kim over Harry (the strongest wizard in the city) or Mort or anyone else? What's Kim's connection to the dark side?

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Plus, the blessed kerchiefs the Knights wrap dropped coins do in seem to be able to block the summoning. And that's just a portable field measure to secure them for transport, so it stands to reason that their coin jail monasteries have better countermeasures.  On the other hand, it's also possible they're mistaken about it being the kerchiefs (they do get a fair bit wrong about the Lash situation) and it's actually the presence of the Knights themselves, or near-saintly priests like Forthill, who are jamming the summoning like they jam Anduriel's listening.  Rotate the wrong dude out of the monastery, and the merely averagely-good personnel no longer pose a problem to Nic and Tessa rubber-banding their crews back to them?

As for the Kim theory, she doesn't necessarily have to have a particular affinity for the dark. Kumori seemed more like a deluded idealist, with a side order of healthy fear of how easily Cowl could kill her if she accepted Harry's suggestion to turn on him.  Telling her that he could reverse her necromantic resurrection - or convert her into a regular controlled zombie if she got out of line - would be a pretty effective stick alongside the carrot of learning to use dark power for her own morally good (at least, self-proclaimedly so) actions.

The main drawback I see to it is that the kind of necromantic resurrection she demonstrated with the critically injured gangster in Dead Beat seems to require the deceased to be pretty fresh. Death being a process rather than a binary, it seems like necro-healing can only catch them up to a certain level of how far gone they are.  So if Cowl had snapped her up as an apprentice acquisition of opportunity after MacFinn killed her, the window of opportunity is almost certainly before she made it to burial. And while I'm sure he could do that easily in and of itself, it would leave a missing body where the official system is expecting one to be accounted for. Given Karrin's interest in her, that seems like the sort of thing it would be a stretch for her not to notice and end up questioning Harry over.  Not impossible if he was using mind magic really widely to cover his tracks, but still a pretty big stretch.

I will give credit that most of the Kumori theories have been blind to the possibility of Cowl bringing back a dead character, though. That bears considering.

Snark Knight:

--- Quote from: Cthoniq on April 22, 2023, 06:12:08 PM ---My theory is that this imbalance created by free use of Angelic power is balanced out by returning more power from the Fallen to the mortal world. So mortals choose to employ Angelic power outside the balance, and "coincidence" causes a balancing Fallen force to be expressed, freeing a coin. It would be wonderfully ironic that by being the people they are, the Knights are perpetuating the struggle.

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Even further so if the uptick in the rate at which the coins are getting back out - that Harry and Michael notice and attribute to the Church's storage arrangements being compromised - is actually balance for the times Harry uses soulfire.

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