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Some personal theories I want to get feedback on.
tinom87:
Hello folks, former poster that hasn't been back here for a long time. Wanted to throw some personal theories in here and get some feedback, see what the community as a whole thinks of them.
First theory: Denarian coins are NOT returned to circulation via divine will, but rather a lack of understanding of Nicodemus and the powers Anduriel grants him.
So we are told by Michael I believe that he thinks the coins are MEANT to be in circulation, that is why they always get recaptured by the Denarians; we also know however that very few people realize Nicodemus can hear anything said within hearing distance of a shadow AND he makes sure to destroy the church's records of him every so often. Thus, I believe the divine will theory is just what the church has come to theorize because they are regularly trusting people beyond repute with hiding/safeguarding the coins. Nicodemus uses Anduriel to find the coins and liberate them, the church has no idea how because only truly devout/pious type are entrusted with them and thus decide it must be divine will. The truth is they are just ignorant to the extent of which Nicodemus can infiltrate their top secret hidey holes through Anduriel.
Second theory: Kim Delaney is Kumori
As far as I know, the only thing we know about Kumori's character outside of her appearances is a WoJ that her identity will be really rough on Harry when it is revealed. I like Kim for Kumori for a few reasons: 1. she is described as tall as Kumori and Kim is described as "statuesque." 2. There is a really striking similarity/symmetry in how Dresden tries to warn Kim Delaney off the Macfinn case in Fool Moon and how Kumori tries to warn Dresden off the case against Cowl in Dead Beat. The two conversations mirror each other ridiculously closely, both instances of 1 person withholding information that would be incredibly important to the other but withholding that information because they think they're doing the right thing. 3. Kumori chose to save a random life for no reason other than it was the right thing to do, while also putting herself and her mission in jeopardy. Reminiscent of how Kumori tried to help Macfinn, no? Basic theory is Cowl is running around behind the scenes pulling strings in Chicago, loses an apprentice to Dresden (Sells) and then has Dresden meddling in another plan of his(hexenwolf belts). While surveilling the situation in Chicago he recognizes Delaney has untapped potential as well as insider info on the recurring Dresden problem and Chicago in general, he resurrects her to be his new apprentice and help him figure out how best to deal with Dresden.
Theory 3: the books follow a pattern.
The book patterns I have noticed and think might be getting fleshed out are:
Every 3rd Book is a Vampire focused book.
Every 4th book is a Fae focused book.
Every 5th book is a Denarian focused book.
Every 7th book is Black Council and will have a lead up to and climax on Halloween.
Every prime numbered book starting at 7 is a Black Council book.
What do you guys think?
Conspiracy Theorist:
Theory 1 it’s not divine will it’s free will and I do not doubt Nick has been suborning members of the Catholic Church for millenia.
And probably posing as a vending machine repairman. The Vatican really should change over their vending machines to card only. Especially the ones in the gents toilets.
Theory 2 unlikely, Loupe Garou are unstoppable by magical means, and there’s no connection with Cowl.My bet is on Sarissa, her mother was a magic user and she is a Changeling, she could easily have had wizard level powers suppressed by something not unlike a nicer version of thorn manacles, or set them aside before meeting Harry in Cold Days and Nameless a member of the Winter Court was an associate of Kemmler, and would be able to teach all sorts of dark healing. He is my suspect for Cowl.
Theory 3 ignores the Peace Talk/Battle Ground split The Novella The Law and the additional bookTwelve Months which all bugger up the number order, besides Cowl and Kumori appear in Grave Peril and are quite clearly driving the events to nemfected Lea, set up the Red Court War etc. The pattern is I think is that Cowl is directly or indirectly in every case file, where he isn’t responsible for the A Story he is responsible for the B Story.
g33k:
#1:
Do we have any WoJ on how/why the coins are returned to circulation? Not just logistically, but in a cosmological sense?
I suspect that is part of their function...
But as a simple matter of logistics: Lash told Harry she could show him how to summon the Coin ... even though he had placed it behind the best wards he knew how to make, which was in a location miles away.
I suspect ALL the Coins can be summoned from the Church's possession, with similar ease.
I suspect that only a partnership (with a hosting KotBD), and/or a Fallen who's unwilling to be summoned, is capable of holding a coin in place, when the appropriate Summons is performed.
#2:
Interesting. It seems primarily predicated on:
(1) simple tallness (which seems insufficiently-rare)
(2) the whole "withholding clued-in info" (which almost everybody seems to do, e.g. Eb withholds from Harry, the Senior Council withholds from the WC rank-and-file, etc)
But Kim was a very-minor talent; despite any strategic usefulness (which may indeed have justified Cowl bringing her back; but only temporarily for a quick Q&A) I doubt he'd have made an apprentice of her; or for Kim herself to be capable of staving-off death that way (no matter the tutelage).
#3
There are some patterns (I think Jim himself has admitted to Denarians/5). But I don't think it has *that* many patterns, except as coincidence... it'd constrain Jim's overall metaplot too much, I think.
Melriken:
Theory 1: I think the coins are meant to circulate, Nick could very well be using Andurial to find them and get them out... but I think that is at best shortening the time they are held for, and usually not by much. If this were the primary method of them getting out then Nick would have far more of them and the other Denarians wouldn't have so many... but we see Nicks wife with a stash too, I think they just get out, I think the fallen bend fate from inside the coins to get out... 1 in a million chances happen and someone touches one on accident... maybe without realizing it...
Most Knights are called for one event and stop serving (like Susan or Karen at chicken pizza) who is to say that most Denarians don't do the same... possibly with a mind wipe to forget they ever took up a coin or possibly never actually took up the coin, just got a shadow that took them... Nick tries to have Lash disable Harry when he knows Harry hasn't taken up the coin, so we know the shadows can do that at least.
Theory 2:
--- Quote from: Conspiracy Theorist on April 17, 2023, 11:12:20 AM ---My bet is on Sarissa, her mother was a magic user and she is a Changeling, she could easily have had wizard level powers suppressed by something not unlike a nicer version of thorn manacles, or set them aside before meeting Harry in Cold Days and Nameless a member of the Winter Court was an associate of Kemmler, and would be able to teach all sorts of dark healing. He is my suspect for Cowl.
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The one character who we KNOW has found someone who was Nemfected, found not one but TWO Nemfected individuals... I doubt Mab would miss the fact that Sarissa was Nemfected, and if she suspected Nameless of Nemfection she would deal with him... I don't think any theory that requires Mab miss Nemfection in someone close to her (and Sarissa is) is a great theory...
Kim Delaney is a reasonable guess for Kumori... not going to totally throw in on it, but reasonable guess... I approve.
Theory 3:
--- Quote from: Conspiracy Theorist on April 17, 2023, 11:12:20 AM ---Theory 3 ignores the Peace Talk/Battle Ground split The Novella The Law and the additional bookTwelve Months which all bugger up the number order, besides Cowl and Kumori appear in Grave Peril and are quite clearly driving the events to nemfected Lea, set up the Red Court War etc. The pattern is I think is that Cowl is directly or indirectly in every case file, where he isn’t responsible for the A Story he is responsible for the B Story.
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Agreed, also Dead Beat and Proven Guilty were swapped due to book 7 being the first Hardback... though who is to say which portions of Dead Beat were moved to Proven Guilty and visa versa... Nick shows up every 5 books (book 5, 10, 15...) and a word of Jim saying he will 'show up on schedule' before book 15... so there is something to the idea of X shows up every Y books but some of that was messed up with the swap of 7 and 8 and more of it with the split of 16, the swapping of 17 and 18 (Mirror Mirror and the Wrestling book were swapped around the time Peace Talks came out) and the insertion of twelve months...
So what was 16, 17, 18 became 16, BG, TM, 18, 17 and that pushes out the last of the case files too... so even Nick (the one clockwork thread we KNOW is true) may not be on schedule anymore.
Conspiracy Theorist:
Actually no, Sarissa was never nemfected. Nameless as part of Maeve’s court doubtless manipulated Lloyd Slate engineering his betrayal and through Slate manipulated the changelings like Ace (the Red Caps son) and Sarissa (Mab’s daughter). For example Nameless trained Sarissa in magic to protect against Slate (after slicing Slate on her)and the enticement of dark healing because he needed a mortal wizard for some things and his intended candidate Elaine had vanished.
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