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“You Know What He Was Meant To Be”
Conspiracy Theorist:
Perhaps this is deliberate we have been looking to pin some predictable, astronomical phenomena to Harry’s birth to get an exact date but what if there isn’t? What if it was set up as dawn/sunset on a random day which we just adopted as 31 October/Halloween by humanity over history, and the 666 interval just mathematics? We never then get an exact date of birth and don’t need one, which is just as well as Jim won’t give one, and he is happy with us chasing are tails over “clues” which are little more than red-herrings.
The top tier beings responsible for this pre-date linear time which has been hammered into us, to them one date was as good as any other.
Balance is a big thing in the Dresdenverse. What if Harry was born at dawn, and Listen born at Sunset? That would be very dramatic, we have Bob and Evil Bob, Mouse and Ash, why not Harry and Listen as a pairing (not siblings)
Conspiracy Theorist:
Back to Skin Game, who provided the Ghouls and killed Harvey?
Cowl has used Ghouls before, but the Tigress was a favourite assassin of Maeve’s when Nameless was part of her court. Maeve disrupted Will and Georgias wedding in revenge.
The Fomor alert Cowl/Nameless that Harvey’s data has been stolen, he realises it means a heist on Hades vault, Nameless is aware as Marcone’s top lawyer that Hades is a client of Marcone’s Bank with his own personal vault, and that potentially a Way exists. He contacts polonius Lartessa who was in on the assault on Arctis Tor, telling her that access to Hades vault will result in Deirdre’s death (Cowl knows all about Hades as The Fugitive shows) with a view to using her to derail the heist. He throws in the Ghouls because her usual backup of other Denarians and Squires are not available.
“his eyes flickering as merrily as a Christmas Eve fire.’ About Michael Carpenter p 197, we have also just had the Mjolnir Bottle opener, an obvious gift from a son. Foreshadowing that when Odin falls Michael Carpenter will be the vessel for the Kringle Mantle. Christmas Eve is even more laden with foreshadowing.
“He went to the fridge and opened another pair of bottles with the power of Thor”
Michael wrinkled his nose. “Faeries. I never understood why they’re such lawyers about everything.” Michael p200 prefiguring Nameless again.
Ed0517:
--- Quote from: g33k on March 21, 2023, 11:17:08 PM ---I quote Priscellie, from the "Timeline" document she assembled: -- https://www.paranetonline.com/index.php/topic,1592.0.html
I'm pretty convinced about the early/mid 1970s as Harry's birtdate.
I'm pretty convinced that Jim was just sloppy here; he wrote the details he wanted without regard for what was actually factual.
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Not even mid. 70, most likely, possibly 71, I think. Can't be pre-1970, Malcolm meets the stage Copperfield in 1970 at the convention (March 1970). Kotkin's stage name could have been discussed, not yet announced. But Harry must be born after the convention. Turn Coat comes out in April 2009. Luccio says "You're not even FORTY!" - so he is likely close to it - she doesn't say that if he is born in 1976 and is 32. Probably 38 (born 1970) or 37 (1971), more likely the first. Also clears Priscellie's Cons on her timeline with smallpox vaccines and Knight Rider episodes.
g33k:
--- Quote from: Ed0517 on March 23, 2023, 07:14:32 AM --- ... Turn Coat comes out in April 2009...
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Real-world publication dates, however, are unrelated to internal Dresdenverse timelines.
Conspiracy Theorist:
--- Quote from: g33k on March 23, 2023, 02:38:08 PM ---Real-world publication dates, however, are unrelated to internal Dresdenverse timelines.
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Yes the timeline is currently stuck in Christmas 2014 at the best guess, we are nearly a decade behind, give or take a year.
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