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g33k:

--- Quote from: Snark Knight on February 08, 2023, 04:02:25 PM --- ... but Harry suddenly acting weirdly confident on that particular ground should have been an excellent reason for someone who understands what the island is and had tried to sentence him to death before to absolutely not step on its ground.)
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It could simply have been a calculated risk, taken in extremis, relying upon several factors to keep her safe:
 * Harry wanting to remain in good standing with the White Council, & her own status as a SC member
 * Harry's relative inexperience (as a wizard, and with the bond to the island so new)
 * Some (unknown) defensive/escape magic of her own, that might keep her safe long enough to open a Way off the island
 * Other as-yet-unrevealed shenanigans.

Tinfoil hat:
Ancient Mai is depicted as being smart, and old. If itd true that kemmeler was a previous warden of demonreach. The SC might have studied up on the island and knew its capabilities. Harry as powerful has he is still a child by SC standards. Not even a teenager. They may believe they  can take him. Think of the people they sent. Veteran wardens, the blackstaff, and the expect on loci. Sure we are told they are there for Morgan. Plus they weren't aware he was bonded to the island.
They seem to realise what happened pretty quickly. Once harry starts talking

Snark Knight:

--- Quote from: Tinfoil hat on February 08, 2023, 07:46:46 PM ---The SC might have studied up on the island and knew its capabilities. Harry as powerful has he is still a child by SC standards. Not even a teenager. They may believe they  can take him. ...
They seem to realise what happened pretty quickly. Once harry starts talking

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He was acting like he could take the entire delegation if he had to even on the dock. He thought it was a bluff because he didn't realize he could command Alfred to grab everybody, and the narrative is pretty clear that Eb read it that way, but then Eb went ahead and pretty much backed his play by acting to the others like Harry was someone to avoid throwing down with. That should have made Mai even more suspicious about why he's suddenly that powerful in that place.  Allow him to get out of their sight once the fighting started after the way he'd been acting like he could take them all was monumentally risky, if she knew he could have them all snatched up and taken below with a command to the spirit.

She probably does know something about the island from their wars with Kemmler. But if Mai had been aware that "take them all below" was a capability open to the Warden, and connected Harry's confidence to taking up that mantle, I'd have expected her to shoot him in the back the moment he bolted.

Ed0517:

--- Quote from: Snark Knight on February 08, 2023, 10:26:12 PM ---He was acting like he could take the entire delegation if he had to even on the dock. He thought it was a bluff because he didn't realize he could command Alfred to grab everybody, and the narrative is pretty clear that Eb read it that way, but then Eb went ahead and pretty much backed his play by acting to the others like Harry was someone to avoid throwing down with. That should have made Mai even more suspicious about why he's suddenly that powerful in that place.  Allow him to get out of their sight once the fighting started after the way he'd been acting like he could take them all was monumentally risky, if she knew he could have them all snatched up and taken below with a command to the spirit.

She probably does know something about the island from their wars with Kemmler. But if Mai had been aware that "take them all below" was a capability open to the Warden, and connected Harry's confidence to taking up that mantle, I'd have expected her to shoot him in the back the moment he bolted.

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Eb can just be being honest - if Mai sends the Wardens maybe Harry seriously injures or even kills one before they subdue him. Harry might not be a threat to Mai, and isn't one to him, but even the spiders kill a Warden on the island. Eb is the kind to be soliticious of the welfare of the Wardens.  He won't treat them as cannon fodder

We don't know that Alfred can "take them all below" at once. Alfred might have to do them individually. If you have 25 WWI era tanks rolling on your position, and you can call one modern one - well, none of the WWI tanks could damage the modern one, which can destroy them all - but he has to engage one at a time - they can overrun your position while Supertank kills them.

and Harry's no child. He's been a regional commander of the wardens. At a major summit, he was trusted in security.  He's not SC, but he's no rookie either. 

Mira:

--- Quote ---We don't know that Alfred can "take them all below" at once. Alfred might have to do them individually. If you have 25 WWI era tanks rolling on your position, and you can call one modern one - well, none of the WWI tanks could damage the modern one, which can destroy them all - but he has to engage one at a time - they can overrun your position while Supertank kills them.

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 It isn't just Alfred though, Harry as Warden of the island can turn the whole place into a nightmare.

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