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vincentric:
Just the abilities he demonstrated in PT would have been enough to stave off the Senior Council and Wardens.

Being instantly buried 3 feet under the ground would probably take out most of the Wardens and would have slowed all but EB and LtW severely. He could then take them out using hit and run tactics because he'd always know their exact locations while they would have to search for him though actively hostile terrain.

Ed0517:

--- Quote from: vincentric on February 17, 2023, 07:06:25 PM ---Just the abilities he demonstrated in PT would have been enough to stave off the Senior Council and Wardens.

Being instantly buried 3 feet under the ground would probably take out most of the Wardens and would have slowed all but EB and LtW severely. He could then take them out using hit and run tactics because he'd always know their exact locations while they would have to search for him though actively hostile terrain.

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That was against two who, in open combat, he beats easily even in Chicago. Lara lost it. Whamps are not someone who can attack a wizard at a distance and close to hand to hand. Being on Demonreach meant he could do it casually, and subdue them without hurting them.  And two, not 7 or 8, all more powerful than those two. If he attacks the Wardens, LtW and Eb open up, and who knows what Mai may be able to do? And the sinking in the ground - why do we assume LtW is the only shapeshifter? And it would only take one Warden to escape, then when you are against LtW and Eb, both better than you - they get you. Maybe he could face off against them - though the Blackstaff, I don't know. But far from proven.

Mira:

--- Quote from: Ed0517 on February 18, 2023, 01:15:58 AM ---That was against two who, in open combat, he beats easily even in Chicago. Lara lost it. Whamps are not someone who can attack a wizard at a distance and close to hand to hand. Being on Demonreach meant he could do it casually, and subdue them without hurting them.  And two, not 7 or 8, all more powerful than those two. If he attacks the Wardens, LtW and Eb open up, and who knows what Mai may be able to do? And the sinking in the ground - why do we assume LtW is the only shapeshifter? And it would only take one Warden to escape, then when you are against LtW and Eb, both better than you - they get you. Maybe he could face off against them - though the Blackstaff, I don't know. But far from proven.

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   I doubt that it would be as you describe now that there is a Warden in charge and Alfred can fully engage the island defenses.  It is a maximum security prison, Merlin designed it most likely to secure it from beings a lot more powerful and bad assed than either Eb or LTW..

Tinfoil hat:
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--- Quote from: Mira on February 18, 2023, 04:58:19 AM ---   I doubt that it would be as you describe now that there is a Warden in charge and Alfred can fully engage the island defenses.  It is a maximum security prison, Merlin designed it most likely to secure it from beings a lot more powerful and bad assed than either Eb or LTW..

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It doesn't matter how strong Alfred Demonreach is. You have to pay the Man in this case Harry the Warden.
Ltw and Eb know this, Harry himself knows this. And he has used this to beat things and people stronger than him. Open combat does nnot mean fair. On the island, Eb is the key to the fight. If Harry needed to be put down, im sure Eb can talk him down so the other can stab or him in the back

Mira:

--- Quote from: Tinfoil hat on February 18, 2023, 10:26:36 AM ---ItIt doesn't matter how strong Alfred Demonreach is. You have to pay the Man in this case Harry the Warden.
Ltw and Eb know this, Harry himself knows this. And he has used this to beat things and people stronger than him. Open combat does nnot mean fair. On the island, Eb is the key to the fight. If Harry needed to be put down, im sure Eb can talk him down so the other can stab or him in the back

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You are still thinking in terms of a one on one fight, it won't happen like that on the island.  Remember in Turn Coat?  The island was without a Warden at that point, or just as well be
because Harry had no clue at that point that he now was it's Warden.  Anyway, the Senior Council approached it with upmost care, because they were aware of what the island could do even without a Warden.  I don't believe it was just that they feared the Way to it.

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