The Dresden Files > DF Spoilers
Nicodemus in mortal form
Con:
Well nic is smarter than most denarians he has a back up object, the noose, other than his coin. He might have similar object or spell device in a third location.
Mira:
--- Quote from: Con on September 06, 2022, 10:36:07 AM ---Well nic is smarter than most denarians he has a back up object, the noose, other than his coin. He might have similar object or spell device in a third location.
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I doubt it, Nic's back up plan was he knew exactly how Murphy would react. She told Harry how she felt earlier and Andruiel heard it all. So he bluffed her into breaking a Holy Sword, if she had accepted his surrender of noose and coin, he'd be in the same boat as Cassius.
g33k:
--- Quote from: Mira on September 06, 2022, 11:45:57 AM --- I doubt it, Nic's back up plan was he knew exactly how Murphy would react. She told Harry how she felt earlier and Andruiel heard it all. So he bluffed her into breaking a Holy Sword, if she had accepted his surrender of noose and coin, he'd be in the same boat as Cassius.
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I think "Murphy loses it, and Nic breaks the Sword" was Nic's primary plan. Indeed, with Michael (apparently/supposedly) out of operation, Harry going to Murph was the odds-on favorite, and Murph being manipulated that way might have been one of Nic's main objectives (even the topmost one) in that ENTIRE project of his!
I think Nic's backup -- in the unlikely event she didn't lose it -- was that he knows the Coin-Summoning ritual (the one Lasciel's Shadow offered to teach Harry), so he could call it back at his leisure.
Snark Knight:
--- Quote from: g33k on September 08, 2022, 02:40:03 AM ---I think "Murphy loses it, and Nic breaks the Sword" was Nic's primary plan. Indeed, with Michael (apparently/supposedly) out of operation, Harry going to Murph was the odds-on favorite, and Murph being manipulated that way might have been one of Nic's main objectives (even the topmost one) in that ENTIRE project of his!
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I think he'd entirely have preferred for Harry to not even think of demanding a +1 to watch his back, the easier to kill him. But what he came up with was a good way to turn an apparent difficulty into an opportunity. Not unlike the strategy Harry taught Molly, of making your problems collide with each other in a way that lets you come out on top.
I don't think either capping Harry or breaking a sword were his primary objective, though. The complete set of the weapons was. The other two are useful, but not worth sacrificing Deirdre over.
Ed0517:
--- Quote from: g33k on September 08, 2022, 02:40:03 AM ---I think Nic's backup -- in the unlikely event she didn't lose it -- was that he knows the Coin-Summoning ritual (the one Lasciel's Shadow offered to teach Harry), so he could call it back at his leisure.
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I think that may not work if someone has taken up the coin - they are using its power. Harry's was just buried. First case, they HAVE the coin in use. Why do they want someone who renounced it?
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