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g33k:

--- Quote from: Ed0517 on December 18, 2022, 08:43:10 AM --- Kinda doubt it. These seem to be the type where information is power - they get some, they want more. I'm surprised they didn't find her with Raith. Queen consort to the White court can't be too low profile.
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But there's quite a bit of protection there, with Papa Raith.  Also, he hasn't yet suffered her Curse, so he's at the very peak of his power, a more dynamic leader with a firmer seat on his throne, than the White Court ruler we all know from the books.

The White Council is all too prone to taking a "wait and see what happens" approach, and I expect the Blackstaff would have been urging inaction (for his own private reasons)...

Tinfoil hat:
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--- Quote from: g33k on December 20, 2022, 06:51:36 PM ---But there's quite a bit of protection there, with Papa Raith.  Also, he hasn't yet suffered her Curse, so he's at the very peak of his power, a more dynamic leader with a firmer seat on his throne, than the White Court ruler we all know from the books.

The White Council is all too prone to taking a "wait and see what happens" approach, and I expect the Blackstaff would have been urging inaction (for his own private reasons)...


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The problem with having power is knowing when to act and when not to. Act to soon and you can trigger bigger problems.
In the grand scheme of things how strong is the white council. I know everyone thought it was going to win against reds but how strong  do you think it is. In the real world the US can beat any nation but it rarely uses its army. Same with all the major powers cause the other may use the small power to fight as a proxy

Ed0517:

--- Quote from: Tinfoil hat on December 24, 2022, 08:16:09 PM ---lThe problem with having power is knowing when to act and when not to. Act to soon and you can trigger bigger problems.
In the grand scheme of things how strong is the white council. I know everyone thought it was going to win against reds but how strong  do you think it is. In the real world the US can beat any nation but it rarely uses its army. Same with all the major powers cause the other may use the small power to fight as a proxy

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If you want the military analogy, it is not that you can beat anyone, it is that you cant beat EVERYONE. You can beat the toughest guy in the biker gang - but there are 15 in the bar, you get in a fight, you get your ass kicked. 

g33k:

--- Quote from: Tinfoil hat on December 24, 2022, 08:16:09 PM --- ... In the grand scheme of things how strong is the white council ...
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Nobody really knows.

I presume they've done some pretty epic ass-kicking, in days of yore; they did something to earn their rep, and the immortals will have long memories, so it's not likely that exaggeration over time will have been a substantive part of that rep.

I think it remains to be seen how formidable they remain; the modern White Council may be a bit of a Paper Tiger.  A few formidable members, like Eb & most of the Senior Council, many of the Wardens, a few others...  But (particularly with the influx of very-young & inexperienced Wardens) the overall combat fitness of the WC is surely reduced in the post-VampWar era!   Certainly there are many WC wizards who are little to no use in combat, nor even much use for logistics/support.
 

Mira:

--- Quote ---I think it remains to be seen how formidable they remain; the modern White Council may be a bit of a Paper Tiger.  A few formidable members, like Eb & most of the Senior Council, many of the Wardens, a few others...  But (particularly with the influx of very-young & inexperienced Wardens) the overall combat fitness of the WC is surely reduced in the post-VampWar era!   Certainly there are many WC wizards who are little to no use in combat, nor even much use for logistics/support.
 
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  I think it is dangerous to assume that.

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