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In defense of the WC

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Mira:

--- Quote from: Conspiracy Theorist on August 08, 2022, 05:14:05 PM ---I have posited the same.

The Paranet know what the WC have done to Harry despite what Harry did for the WC, they are not going to pass potential Wizards to the WC they are going to pass them to Harry. That’s most of North America.

Harry is also going to be a magnet for disaffected and abused apprentices from the WC from across the world, and wobetide the Wizard who so abuses his young apprentice that they reach Harry. They will be so forced to swear on their power that they will not be able to do anything.That’s a smattering of apprentices across the world.

Harry can’t do one on one teaching in these circumstances but could engage others, Elaine and Molly and Mort (for Ectomancy directly, but no reason he can’t channel say Morgan for evocation and Mort could stand to broaden his education), Butters for magical theory and comparative supernatural biology. Guest Lecturers like River Shoulders or Kringle. If he can save Chandler in Mirror Mirror, then he has another teacher who would be delighted to teach. Harry doesn’t have the WC prejudice against non-human practitioners.

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I can see that leading to a civil war among the wizards.  The White Council will never go for an open school headed by Harry, they will want his head more than ever.

g33k:

--- Quote from: Mira on August 08, 2022, 06:11:19 PM --- I can see that leading to a civil war among the wizards.  The White Council will never go for an open school headed by Harry, they will want his head more than ever.
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I think it'd be very complicated.

To begin with, I don't think there are enough "pro-Harry" wizards to support a civil war, as such.

A "war" against Harry, or his "school"?

I'm pretty sure the White Council wouldn't go to war against Winter.  Frankly, that would be tantamount to suicide, and I think most of them know it.  Harry's the WK, and with winterfae now inhabiting the Castle, it would be hard to see a White Council attack there as anything else.


--- Quote from: Conspiracy Theorist on August 08, 2022, 05:14:05 PM --- I have posited the same.

The Paranet know what the WC have done to Harry despite what Harry did for the WC, they are not going to pass potential Wizards to the WC they are going to pass them to Harry. That’s most of North America.

Harry is also going to be a magnet for disaffected and abused apprentices from the WC from across the world, and wobetide the Wizard who so abuses his young apprentice that they reach Harry. They will be so forced to swear on their power that they will not be able to do anything.That’s a smattering of apprentices across the world.

Harry can’t do one on one teaching in these circumstances but could engage others, Elaine and Molly and Mort (for Ectomancy directly, but no reason he can’t channel say Morgan for evocation and Mort could stand to broaden his education), Butters for magical theory and comparative supernatural biology. Guest Lecturers like River Shoulders or Kringle. If he can save Chandler in Mirror Mirror, then he has another teacher who would be delighted to teach. Harry doesn’t have the WC prejudice against non-human practitioners. 
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My own theory is that the Paranet itself will become the "school."  I'm sure they count some talented educators among their number, who could design curricula.  I would think of Harry as more in that "guest lecturer" role...

...  specifically, teaching Defense Against The Dark Arts!   :o   ;D

But the Paranet can teach many students the introductory material, only calling upon the stronger practitioners for specific "special needs."

Fcrate:

--- Quote from: Mira on August 08, 2022, 06:11:19 PM ---I can see that leading to a civil war among the wizards.  The White Council will never go for an open school headed by Harry, they will want his head more than ever.

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Don't forget that he does have allies on the senior council. It's just that most of them were sick when he got sacked. Besides, the operation will start so small that it'll probably escape their notice, and when they do notice, it'll take a while for them to make a decision, much less get something done. Probably enough time that Marcone in general and Harry in particular will be strong enough that the Council will never be able to set foot in Chicago.

Conspiracy Theorist:

--- Quote from: g33k on August 08, 2022, 06:37:48 PM ---I think it'd be very complicated.

To begin with, I don't think there are enough "pro-Harry" wizards to support a civil war, as such.

A "war" against Harry, or his "school"?

I'm pretty sure the White Council wouldn't go to war against Winter.  Frankly, that would be tantamount to suicide, and I think most of them know it.  Harry's the WK, and with winterfae now inhabiting the Castle, it would be hard to see a White Council attack there as anything else.

My own theory is that the Paranet itself will become the "school."  I'm sure they count some talented educators among their number, who could design curricula.  I would think of Harry as more in that "guest lecturer" role...
...  specifically, teaching Defense Against The Dark Arts!   :o   ;D

But the Paranet can teach many students the introductory material, only calling upon the stronger practitioners for specific "special needs."

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Nah,  Harry would teach Shop, the making of magical tools and artefacts.

It’s population, just like Starborn there are so many wizards being born that there are not enough current wizards to apprentice them in the traditional manner. The WC has lost considerable membership in the last decade due to the War with the Red Court, especially amongst those members who would be warden capable. The fact they impressed Harry shows they cannot afford a war with Harry, he has too many powerful allies and a worrying tendency to wipe out antagonists. To move against Harry publicly and fail would break the White Council. To fail to contain the burgeoning Warlock problem will also break the White Cpouncil.

The Castle almost certainly has to be seen as a garrison of Winter following The Law, which almost certainly provoked Harry to get the Za Guard living there, whoever tried to bomb Harry got out of date info, so not Marcone or Nameless. Sounds like the Merlin, trying to solve the Harry problem without publicly being seen to do so.

g33k:

--- Quote from: Conspiracy Theorist on August 08, 2022, 09:38:56 PM ---Nah,  Harry would teach Shop, the making of magical tools and artefacts.
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I don't think Harry can be any regular part of such a school.

To begin with, that'd set up all sorts of alarm-bells for the "Execute Warlock Dresden!" camp in the WC.  It'd likely set all those students up as targets for the WC, because they "graduated from the Warlock School."

But also, Harry sees himself (not unreasonably) as a danger to others -- he's a "Trouble Magnet."

He'd be really unhappy to attract (possibly indiscriminate) attacks that could do collateral damage to a bunch of wizardlings.

But most of all, I don't think Jim wants to write anything to further conflate the Potterverse/Hogwarts with the Dresden'verse!  Just the shared name "Harry" & being wizards was dismaying to him.

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