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General Ramblings and Questions after re-listening to Battle Ground
Snark Knight:
--- Quote from: g33k on June 13, 2022, 09:35:52 PM ---But some time (not too long before the start of Dead Beat) Future!Harry took down Real!Cowl, and replaced him. The guy Harry dueled at Bock Ordered Books was his future self. Molly is Kumori, because (a) younger female sidekick Harry trusts, & (b) he needs the Winter Lady's immortality to use Mother Winter's Ways through time.
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That theory has real problems with why FutureHarry would be curious to duel PresentHarry and see "what the Wardens are so worried about" & why he's disappointed to find Harry isn't stronger than he turns out to be, and why FutureMolly would ask what happened to his hand when PresentMolly already knows. Weird things to mention solely for the purpose of misdirecting Harry if their identities are so very unlikely for him to have guessed anyway.
Conspiracy Theorist:
I have long had the theory that Cowl is in fact 5 Misters from different points in time standing on each other’s shoulders in a long robe.
Who is to say that what we have seen as Cowl is not in fact an ectoplasmic projection like Harry recently employed?. Cowl could be anyone as the projection doesn’t have to look like the actual person, and they could be in their own home hundreds of miles away, establishing an alibi.
CrusherJen:
@Mira: Since I preferred Sinclair too, I agree that some of the reworked beats might not have worked quite as well with Sheridan... but I still appreciate how JMS was able to change course and still get basically the story he wanted told without the lead actor he started with.
Though if I might suggest, we could take this conversation to the Media Favorites thread, if you like? As much fun as this is for you and me (and it is fun!) it is a little off-topic in a Dresden thread... ;) ;D ❤
(No offense is intended, I just don't want to get smacked by the mods for derailing... )
g33k:
--- Quote from: Snark Knight on June 16, 2022, 03:56:18 PM --- That theory has real problems with why FutureHarry would be curious to duel PresentHarry and see "what the Wardens are so worried about" & why he's disappointed to find Harry isn't stronger than he turns out to be...
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I think this could easily be a bit of misdirection by Future!Harry. He's trying to portray Cowl as this mysterious non-White-Council Kemmlerite wizard who nevertheless seems to know White Council secrets.
--- Quote from: Snark Knight on June 16, 2022, 03:56:18 PM --- ... and why FutureMolly would ask what happened to his hand when PresentMolly already knows ...
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Molly may not have realized Harry was injured at this point; she didn't get more than an occasional glimpse of Harry until the next book, and Harry had been explicitly avoiding Michael and his family for a couple of years (since picking up Lasciel's coin 2-3 books back).
--- Quote from: Snark Knight on June 16, 2022, 03:56:18 PM --- ... Weird things to mention solely for the purpose of misdirecting Harry if their identities are so very unlikely for him to have guessed anyway.
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Also an entirely-valid perspective. I cannot say you are "wrong" here.
morriswalters:
--- Quote from: g33k on June 16, 2022, 08:55:31 PM ---I think this could easily be a bit of misdirection by Future!Harry. He's trying to portray Cowl as this mysterious non-White-Council Kemmlerite wizard who nevertheless seems to know White Council secrets.
Molly may not have realized Harry was injured at this point; she didn't get more than an occasional glimpse of Harry until the next book, and Harry had been explicitly avoiding Michael and his family for a couple of years (since picking up Lasciel's coin 2-3 books back).
Also an entirely-valid perspective. I cannot say you are "wrong" here.
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What's the point? How does it serve the plot? Butcher laid ground in Cold Days to set out how it would work. He had Vadderung spell it out.
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